From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:14:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727F337B69B for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18911; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:44:22 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:44:22 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Work Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702114422.Q18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Sunday, 2 July 2000 at 8:23:55 +0930, Greg Work wrote: > On Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM, "Larry Rosenman" wrote: >> Well, I'm back... >> Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the >> 128MB memory. >> >> This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. >> >> Still have a problem with make world. >> >> HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can >> make worlds all day long with out an error. >> >> Anyone got a good explanation for this? >> >> Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if >> that makes a difference. > > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? > > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with > SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have > been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. You mean it never discovered a problem? What software were you running? > The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 > days no problems. Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's > to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug > them :( If they're hardware related, there's probably not much to see except that things will be different each time. I suspect that a large number of crashes on Microsoft machines are in fact due to flaky hardware. Despite my low opinion of Microsoft, I have not had an unexpected crash of a Microsoft system in years (it helps, of course, if you don't use them much :-). Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message