Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 08:24:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg <feenberg@nber.org> To: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: Arne Steinkamm <arne@steinkamm.com>, Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family>, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Wayland on FreeBSD Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2004240813430.80072@mail2.nber.org> In-Reply-To: <CAGBxaXmAqU6Ce-gPRYLXEAguAj7ouvDRgiEJVbpP%2BxcO84c%2BeQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAFYkXjmfyLZAi1HZe-RE3wLxa6GRNP6GkmtZG-4T2puRDOz0JA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGLDxTX5EeL3YDUJocdOM03sRzUDi3ed9cKuNH99DieZbrhGHg@mail.gmail.com> <5058973.kMyvyFPq5o@amos> <CAGBxaXn=x1mcQxrArE5v9-u9nm63BbTW%2B5t04XH_gpdhMTo4FQ@mail.gmail.com> <20200423085443.18f00e9649e8c71867505550@sohara.org> <CAGBxaXnn0aXfB=rAPXppVk0i-T1%2BX_Ptz6E9kXB6qM7Bv1UqYA@mail.gmail.com> <20200423113134.GB93186@trajan.stk.cx> <CAGBxaXmAqU6Ce-gPRYLXEAguAj7ouvDRgiEJVbpP%2BxcO84c%2BeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > Looking around almost every major linux dist discourages NFS in favor of > almost anything else for example here is SUSE's official manual on network > storage (never even mentions NFS directly as a primary option, only how to > manage the ACL's if your on a legacy NFS system): > https://documentation.suse.com/sles/12-SP4/single-html/SLES-storage/#part-net-storage > Perhaps we have been in a rut with our petabyte of data entirely accessed over NFSv3, but looking at that web page I wonder if there isn't something obsolete about it - after all, the majority of the hardware mentioned in section 17.2 as being supported is IBM and SUN, and very little would be available for purchase today. I know it has an April 2020 data at the top, but still, it doesn't reflect our experience with Linux. All of our Linux systems have excellent support for NFS, and have for 30 years or more. I wonder if the documentation is perhaps greatly removed from actual practice. It is about remote block storage, NFS is about remote file storage. All our storage is FreeBSD, Freenas or Truenas. All our compute servers are Linux. Daniel Feenberg
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