From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 23 20:49:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E94AB1ABFE for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DEFE142A for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-226-44.knology.net [216.186.226.44] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u3NKnZv1022005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 15:49:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Sane way to resolve potential conflicts in the system References: <20160423162910.7cd2ede2@curlew.lan> Cc: User Questions From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <9ed38de6-0089-9645-9798-7cdf767d3047@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 15:55:05 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:49:43 -0000 On 04/23/16 13:43, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On 23 April 2016 at 19:28, Carmel wrote: > >> On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 19:02:13 +0300, Odhiambo Washington stated: >> >>> I will need to look into this because I use a mixture of portupgrade >>> and pkg on this system. Scary? >> That is one of the reasons I avoid packages. I have several ports that >> require custom configurations, such as Postfix, Dovecot and a few >> others. It just doesn't pay for me to mix packages and ports. There >> just isn't any upside. The package system is just to juvenile right now. >> Until it matures, I will stay with ports. >> >> > I wouldn't say it's juvenile, but when it doesn't give me the option to > customize (like make config) then I am afraid - very afraid - of it. > > > Packages necessarily don't give you that option. They aren't supposed to. You accept whatever options the builder/maintainer selected & install/upgrade. Where it might take hours to rebuild a bunch of ports, it often takes just a few min. to install/upgrade packages. You pick your option (ports or packages) & (hopefully) are happy w/ it. I maintain this box w/ packages almost exclusively, except for flash support in the browsers, which must be compiled up in ports due to licensing issues. When I was getting started w/ FreeBSD, summer of 2014, I built iceweasel in ports per list advice, took 5 1/2 hrs. (!!!!!). I upgraded it a few weeks later w/ pkg, took less than 30 sec. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.