From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 3 04:25:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE3E1065671 for ; Sat, 3 May 2008 04:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18FD8FC16 for ; Sat, 3 May 2008 04:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D80861CC038; Fri, 2 May 2008 21:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 21:25:40 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Dieter Message-ID: <20080503042540.GA32245@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <20080503024240.GA28006@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <200805030331.DAA29798@sopwith.solgatos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805030331.DAA29798@sopwith.solgatos.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Shaun Sabo , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 SATA Controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 04:25:41 -0000 On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:31:35PM +0100, Dieter wrote: > > Finally, the behaviour you're experiencing with your machine (re: the > > progress bar stalling 2/3rds of the way through) sounds almost as if the > > hard disks aren't spinning up quick enough after a soft reset from > > within FreeBSD or Linux 2.4. > > The disks should have spun up long before a reset gets issued. Not necessarily. It ultimately depends on what the system is engineered to do during a soft reboot. The disks themselves may be powering down briefly, may take a long time to initialise, or maybe there's a bug in the drive firmware. My personal guess is that it's a BIOS bug. > > > for some reason i cannot mount any sort of media in freebsd 7 systems. > > > the computer handles the booting of the cd's fine but freebsd cannot > > > for some reason handle the mounting of disks. > > It is the firmware (and maybe a bootstrap) that boots a CD. > Once control is handed over to the FreeBSD kernel, then the > kernel has to be able to talk to the disks. It is the FreeBSD 7 > kernel that is having the problem. Again, not necessarily. I think I've provided enough evidence of where BIOS settings can affect FreeBSD's behaviour when it comes to disk controllers. My RAID question was one such example. > > > the next step im going > > > to take is installing 6.2 and remaking the world but adding device > > > aptic to the kernel. > > > > I think you mean "device apic" to the kernel? > > No, it is "device aptic". It was in 6 but removed from 7. I had to add > aptic to get my nforce4-ultra board to boot 7. Given that 6 runs on > Shaun's machine and 7 doesn't, adding aptic is a useful thing to try. There is no "aptic" device on RELENG_6. I just did a grep -ri "aptic" /usr/src on our RELENG_6 box and found absolutely no trace of said device. You are thinking of "apic". -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |