From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 7 16:19:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B1A16A41F for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2005 16:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1A343D49 for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2005 16:19:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.213]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IKV001SV13OT9D0@l-daemon> for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 10:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IKV008BS13OVO70@pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 10:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.60] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.209.6]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IKV00I4P13MGT@l-daemon> for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 10:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 09:14:11 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20050807.100622.54623722.imp@bsdimp.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-id: <42F63353.7030707@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <42F60443.2040301@freebsd.org> <20050807.231125.26489231.hrs@allbsd.org> <42F61960.4020400@freebsd.org> <20050807.100622.54623722.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050724) Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/portsnap vs. /var/db/portsnap X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:19:24 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <42F61960.4020400@freebsd.org> > Colin Percival writes: > : very little reason for anyone to be running > : a portsnap mirror unless it's a public mirror, > > Our experience with cvsup would suggest otherwise. Many places with > large numbers or even small numbers of machines run cvsup mirrors that > are private. I expect that universities will want to run mirrors that > they might not want non-students accessing (eg, internal bandwidth is > free, external is expensive). Portsnap != CVSup. In particular, an HTTP proxy which is used by five hundred users running portsnap will use less bandwidth than a portsnap mirror. The "right" solution for nearly all organizations is a caching HTTP proxy. Colin Percival