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Sun, 19 Jun 2022 12:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 14:06:24 +0200 From: Michael Gmelin To: Warner Losh Cc: Ceri Davies , Conrad Meyer , Michael Gmelin , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Reducing SIGINFO verbosity Message-ID: <20220619140624.21263e46@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20210520180155.3e23500e@bsd64.grem.de> <20210520185917.GL14975@funkthat.com> X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600 Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies > wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: =20 > > > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default it di= fferently on > > > stable =20 > > vs =20 > > > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more verbose f= orm, > > > which isn=E2=80=99t the default). =20 > > > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, but > > I would say that it is much easier for someone who knows that there > > is a default to be changed to change it, than it is for someone who > > does not. Therefore, if the information is not useful to someone > > who does not know how to get rid of it, then it should default to > > not being displayed, IMHO. > > =20 >=20 > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to > the old behavior. >=20 > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems. >=20 Did this ever happen? I just installed a fresh 13.1-RELEASE production system (non-INVARIANT kernel) and it seems like SIGINFO still outputs kernel stack information. Cheers Michael --=20 Michael Gmelin