From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:42:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8CC1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f18.google.com (mail-qy0-f18.google.com [209.85.221.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A56E8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3711009qyk.19 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:42:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=Hj6+N4kbo/MB75ArIUHhMFiCdbUIQu4X8oUNmw34s0M=; b=skMSnkfyWzJ7o0qVJ/Qc24Waa0uFsmaw4i6HK3wQuBQOpKF/Q3zs+7iE5zY72Gt1yJ 5mxPiPlrGK3F5y5+YKy3zxWTB4PwkO5acbWLxeeAB6rqNIUef/FzOJCAcPOgNydfU3/8 1CnzXA0DKaf1wcT8zZHofkL1XJEy4WYkuRl1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=VUYBh5murcjBW4LkujqP0WLfdvaByszMr28/44VWlzRJ5JU3zOOtmKg87sALcdnVom 5cRTheJ5k4X3bqB+O6L/vHqdp+2k+L8vNJcreslBY/CiaioAaM9P5XoJfJ8OXxuTQGCV Jd7wEcSxaPVR4t7vurW9OMF5Z/Tib+t4KVYiQ= Received: by 10.215.101.20 with SMTP id d20mr12113117qam.50.1228246944676; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2091461ywg.33.2008.12.02.11.42.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:42:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49358F9D.7090006@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:42:21 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tyson Boellstorff References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> In-Reply-To: <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:42:26 -0000 Tyson Boellstorff wrote: >>> Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to >>> redefine ease of use. >>> >>> Bob McConnell >>> >> ease of use is always relative to the person using. >> >> > > Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate > investment some 20-odd years ago still pays, even through the evolvement of > interfaces like KDE, which follows the same general structure. > > With certain other commercial products, you get to learn it again, and again, > and again. What I've had to re-learn to support Windows 1.1, 2.0. 3.0. 3.11, > 95, NT, ME, 2000, XP, and Vista has changed dramtically over the years, and > they're not done making it usable for the lowest common denominator yet, > especially when you throw in de-enhancements like (un)FriendlyTree, > a.k.a. "Where the @!$#@! are my files?!?!?!". > > This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they > unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the > investment pays off. > you basically lengthened what i said. :-) also, using classic menus from xp and up looks like win95 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >