From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 16:09:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D73106566C for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583B58FC22 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4840517104; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m39G9YsI050326; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:09:34 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: John E Hein From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:06:30 CST." <18428.59782.318085.53492@gromit.timing.com> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:09:34 +0000 Message-ID: <50325.1207757374@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tt_ioctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:09:36 -0000 In message <18428.59782.318085.53492@gromit.timing.com>, John E Hein writes: >That said... if we do decide to _not_ hook up t_ioctl, then we should >just remove it entirely since it's misleading that it's there but not >hooked up. Well, if we agree that you should use a non-tty device, we may still miss the poster child ioctl to make the decision... >The only thing that remains then (if we remove it) would be what to do >with the drivers that have been broken for 3+ years since the ioctl >pass-through was removed (digi and the usb driver or two I mentioned >in the previous email). Also a good question. A check in the PR database is probably first order of business. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.