From owner-freebsd-current Sun Feb 28 15: 6:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6507714BE2 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA47256; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:04:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "David O'Brien" , The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc In-Reply-To: <31170.920242197@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Please keep in mind that if, in our haste, we import a compiler that > > puts instability into FreeBSD, then we've drunk poison. The feature > > A legit concern, but also realize that all of us are talking about > 4.0 here - the new compiler would be an issue we'd have up to a full > year on before the product it's in goes mainstream. If that's not enough > time to work out the compiler issues after switching, I can't imagine > when we WILL have a better time to try and do this then. Progress > entails some pain, and if we're unwilling to suffer any at all then > progress ceases entirely. I keep on hearing about how we're losing because we don't have the 3 month old latest feature, and I want to show that we're equally concerned with stability, that's all. I want forward movement too, but every time I see something one-sided, like the comments about the CS courses (and that being in itself enough reason to move forward), I have to bring this up. I want us to go to egcs just as much as you do, but I don't want us to give an obvious show of abandoning our previous professional approach to things. Every time I see a post that is one-sidedly aimed towards the latest untested thing, with not one word about making certain it *works*, I want to tell folks that going that way, there be dragons. Yes, let's try egcs. I want to do buildworlds/installworlds/new kernel builds here with it for a while. Do you have the Makefiles you used to cut it out of your build? Could I install egcs out of ports, and do that testing? I want to do that, if it would contribute. Lots of it. I want to show that it's TESTED. TESTED. TESTED. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message