From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 27 20:06:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8F0EAA39F for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2017 20:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85CEF75AB3 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2017 20:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vBRK5sAM041298; Wed, 27 Dec 2017 13:05:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: Poor default fonts in Firefox To: Polytropon , Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20171227174525.cc1e9047.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Gary Aitken Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-ID: <16498760-1775-b973-40fd-9b2b656fc70b@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 13:05:22 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171227174525.cc1e9047.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 27 Dec 2017 13:05:54 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 20:06:06 -0000 On 12/27/17 09:45, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 16:09:34 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber wrote: >> You install a new FreeBSD machine with a graphics display, install >> the xorg and firefox ports on it, all default options, start browsing >> the web... and you see that some sites (e.g. http://www.bbc.com/news) >> are presented with pixelated fonts like something out of the 1990s. >> >> What do you do? > > You install the recommended font packages. :-) > > Yes, xorg itself comes with certain fonts, but thpse aren't > really suitable for web browsing. adding the webfonts package > improves visual presentation a lot. Another issue is that because individual pages can choose their own fonts, pages which look fine in the browser may not print fine if your printer doesn't know how to deal with the pages' choice of fonts. At least that's what I think I was seeing. I got around this by clearing the checkbox in Preferences/General/Fonts&Colors/Advanced that says "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of your selections above". Maybe I just don't care what the fonts look like, as long as I can read them. What I really can't deal with is not being able to read the printed page on the rare occasion I do that. Gary