From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 28 00:30:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22148 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21996 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-87.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.87]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA26102; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:28:27 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199807280728.TAA26102@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: Samantha Dahl Stack Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:28:20 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbies FAK Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <35BCE652.2D2FFF4F@bendnet.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27 Jul 98, at 13:42, Samantha Dahl Stack wrote: > Ya, what dburr said! > > Donald Burr wrote: > > > My secret spy satellite informs me that on 27-Jul-98, Dan Langille > > wrote: > > > On 23-Jul-98 Samantha Stack wrote: > > >> > > >>Just wanted to say I think the EFnet channel #freebsd is a lot of help > > >>and also a lot of fun :) > > >> > > > > > > I've been in there, and been abused by an op for "not having learned > > > anything" since the last time I was there. I've found #freebsd on > > > undernet to be less crowded and more friendly and helpful. > > > > > > For an example of the kind of help I've recently obtained from that > > > channel, try the CD-ROM and bash sections of the webpage in my > > > signature. > > > > Don't write off the EFnet #freebsd channel so quickly. > > > > We sometimes forget that the people behind those IRC screen names are, > > when it comes down to it, "only human." They have all the qualities and > > failings that humans have had for countless generations. They have bad > > hair days, bad work days, bad bosses, bad traffic, bad coffee, bad > > crashes, and all sorts of things that tend to alter a human's mood for > > the worst part. Plain and simple, Sometimes the ops get cranky. Hell, > > Sometimes even the USERS get cranky. And sometimes (really, most of the > > time, from my experience), everyone's in a happy, joking, > > willing-to-help mood. Unfortunately, it's "luck o the draw" sometimes. Unfortunately, my experience was not as above. I hesitate the name the op in question as that would be unfair. But yes, I've seen this person respond in the same way more than once, and not just to me. Mind you, I have seen that person in a better mood from time to time. That not withstanding, the issus is that first contact is very important. If I get put off by the contact, imagine what other people will encounter. I've been on IRC several years. I know what's acceptable and what isn't. I can usually tell good moods from bad. But the reaction I received on that one night was definitly off-putting. Perhaps, in time, that op will gain my trust again. I'm an op on more than one channel, so I know what you are referrring to. But that doesn't change the situation. I've been bad to efnet #freebsd since. -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message