From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun May 12 17:45:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5C9159D6BA; Sun, 12 May 2019 17:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F60081BFC; Sun, 12 May 2019 17:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id x4CHjmso037514; Sun, 12 May 2019 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id x4CHjmiw037513; Sun, 12 May 2019 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201905121745.x4CHjmiw037513@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: FCP-101: obsolete driver removal planned for 2019-05-18 In-Reply-To: To: Eugene Grosbein Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) CC: Warner Losh , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" , Brooks Davis , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6F60081BFC X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.56 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.74)[0.745,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: gndrsh.dnsmgr.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.944,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.93)[0.933,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.05)[ip: (0.16), ipnet: 69.59.192.0/19(0.08), asn: 13868(0.05), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 17:45:56 -0000 > 12.05.2019 8:21, Warner Losh wrote: > > > >> I've posted a review to remove obsolete 10 and 10/100 Ethernet drivers > > >> as previous approved in FCP-101. > > >> The following drivers are slated for > > >> removal from FreeBSD-HEAD (to be FreeBSD-13): > > >> ae, bm, cs, de, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, sf, sn, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe > > > OMG ! ed ! That EOL's loads of PC boxes I have (& a show box of > > > spare) that will never be able to upgrade. > > Do those boxes have 10M-only or 100Mbps variants of ed(4)? > > What kind of hardware do they have (CPU and memory-wise)? > > > > There are no 100M ed variants. There are some PC Card variants that have 100M MII connections, but they are limited to about 12Mbps due to bus limits. Even the PCI ones didn't have 100M mii connections. > > There was RTL8029AS "NE2000-compatible" 100M 32 bit PCI 2.1 adapter. > Not sure if ed(4) supports RTL8029AS. That is what I was hunting for, but I can not seem to locate a data sheet on that. I also thought there was a 100mb version of the DP83905, but can not seem to locate any data thier either. Given this lack of findable data I shall continue to support the ed removal, unless Julian comes up with the needed criteria, and with holding my own fact that I do have a pile of these around, but they are not in use and are only retained for testing and resurection of ancient things. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org