From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jun 27 06:08:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11155 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11142 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hsu@mail.clinet.fi) Received: from katiska.clinet.fi (katiska.clinet.fi [194.100.0.4]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA10881; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:10:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by katiska.clinet.fi (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA03382; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:08:05 +0300 (EEST) To: njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Niall Smart) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCVT's death References: From: Heikki Suonsivu Date: 27 Jun 1998 16:08:03 +0300 In-Reply-To: njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk's message of 21 Jun 1998 02:27:39 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 43 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Niall Smart) writes: > On Jun 20, 12:45pm, Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote: > } Subject: PCVT's death > > > pcvt is dying, syscons is THE console driver in freebsd. > > > If we need more functionality we will have to extend the API with > > > those new items (allready happend once with the nw "wheel" mouse) > > > that is inherent through all of the systems drivers, nothing special > > > here. > > > > I should hope that pcvt wouldn't die. There are a number > > of us who interact with machines that don't know about SCO Ansi > > or cons25 (including my DEC boxes) and we need something which > > can do real vt100 compatibility. I really don't want to have to run > > screen for this on console screens. > > Well why not tell them about cons25 via termcap or terminfo? I do not think my vt220's support termcap or terminfo :) We have been widely using pcvt mostly because it make a lot of things easier, no hassle with termcap entries when loggin on to any host. pcvt also gets erase key right, which helps a lot when everything else is dec or gnu tradition. Yes, pcvt is obviously unsupported, currently we get a kernel panic on plugging in the keyboard. I do not think it is pcvt alone, as there are no changes in it and the problem has been there for PS/2 keyboards all the time; for some reason, couple of months ago the problem also appeared with non-PS/2 keyboards. I cannot see any obvious changes in pcvt or kbdio which would cause this. Unless sc would be made loadable vt220 emulation, pcvt should stay even with its shortcomings. > Niall > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-9-43542270 fax -4555276 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message