From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 5 12:50:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7450737B401; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B152643E6E; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01162; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gA5KoIW36127; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:50:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15816.12042.154428.156408@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:50:18 -0500 (EST) To: Terry Lambert Cc: John Baldwin , Fred Clift , "alpha@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3DC82D93.BC477690@mindspring.com> References: <3DC82D93.BC477690@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > John Baldwin wrote: > > > Being new to the alpha architecture, my biggest problem with all this is > > > that I dont know enough to even have vague ideas of _why_ the i386 bare > > > kernel is so much smaller than the alpha bare kernel. > > > > > > Can anyone explain this? I'm really just curious :). > > > > For one thing, 64-bit binaries are larger than 32-bit binaries. > > Another difference on 5.0 is that Alpha supports SMP out of the > > box where as i386 requires a custom kernel for SMP support. > > You sure it's not all of the drivers in the boot path that don't > need to be there because they aren't supported by SRM? Have you EVEN READ this thread!??? A kernel with NO DRIVERS still does not fit in the standard config. The only way to get a kernel to fit alonsdie the loader is to remove nfs and ipv6. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message