Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:09:30 -0600 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: The Clark Family <res03db2@gte.net> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gimme FreeBSD anyday! Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000822195636.04e46bd0@localhost> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008221305520.4505-100000@orthanc.dsl.gtei.n et> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000821110604.04ba5920@localhost>
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At 02:16 PM 8/22/2000, The Clark Family wrote: >Brett, > Now I'm curious. > > Did Be go with GCC over Metrowerks because it was cheaper, or >because Metrowerks was spending too much time on their Mac products? I was under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that Metrowerks' CodeWarrior IDE invoked GCC as a compiler. > Credit is due to GCC right? Is there any open source or GPL OS out >there that didn't get where it is by pimping GCC? > > FreeBSD? GCC? > NetBSD? GCC? > OpenBSD? GCC? > Linux? GCC? It's true; they all use GCC, and it's sad. And also dangerous. Any monoculture is. There should be a choice. > Are there any commercial compilers that don't live without the >support of their parents? Few. Microsoft does OK with their C/C++ because they own the Windows platform. And they do well with VB because it's tough to do Windows RAD on anything else except maybe Borland's Delphi. > Borland is dead, and open source? Not open source, but giving away their C/C++ compiler for Linux away for free. They still sell Delphi for Windows. They are doing a Delphi port for Linux, but it is unlikely to make them money. >Watcomm is dead, and open source? Watcom became Powersoft. They focus exclusively on the Windows platform now, because they do not believe that they can make money anywhere else. (Now that GCC has killed the market, they may be right!) Not open source, though, as far as I know. >What is left? A few Windows tool vendors plus the embedded systems guys. > Are we seeing a trend? Milk a product for what its worth, and then >make it open source. Not all of the people you mention above have made their compilers open source. But the market for C/C++ compilers for all platforms but Windows *has* been killed by GCC. > Instead of the cathedral and the bazaar, it should be the garage >sale and the free box. Actually, it has turned out that the FSF -- with its religion that commercial software is evil -- has turned out to be the "cathedral." And it's trying to destroy the bazaar (that is, the market for commercial software). --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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