From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 13 04:06:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383D1106564A for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f20.google.com (mail-bw0-f20.google.com [209.85.218.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D728FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so7524991bwz.19 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:05:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HT4DvK1iPNZw1R92QKZWk8XOOpS3XkDXdGXo/BMUWnE=; b=OXAvn30+4y7YsWuT9lJIozg0FGYr79dLcBzvnnHX3aGr71C4vKOankOLbCRg68fEiw TtpoBJoXpbOLTD7oWWvNDnk/eOXl+FZPG9NSzBTT58A+EsvPKCweVj8bYKYD/fqDvTf7 NpZXmGi2i11dmNZWDwSStO/U4a16Z46P8wSNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=St144kdmI2ImbsWQqAoUqbt8xDlfQFwZPkM5HVM8C46vNevDcGLp6YbvhSnH2bJ6WK FmcRugptEpJUgX4mRZuaVDk6QN/XB7zrAIPJqQj9yqmd9fkuqYXk3ttXZFxj5JVBZcWK fPi5GEzwqVuFGF4hD0ni2pk/thc6uv8vWEtnc= Received: by 10.180.255.1 with SMTP id c1mr11232421bki.36.1231819559432; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.26.3 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:05:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0901122005j6a106d52h7c4946df483563bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:05:59 -0800 From: "Garrett Cooper" To: "Mark Linimon" In-Reply-To: <200901122350.n0CNo2tV076482@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200901122350.n0CNo2tV076482@freefall.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/130478: [request] Port Linux kernel stub of nouveau to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:06:01 -0000 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > The following reply was made to PR kern/130478; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) > To: Henrik Friedrichsen > Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: kern/130478: [request] Port Linux kernel stub of nouveau to FreeBSD > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:42:02 -0600 > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:30:03PM +0000, Henrik Friedrichsen wrote: > > So is this a good or a bad thing? Are patches in development? Or why did > > you suspend the PR? =) > > I know of no patches in development. > > Although we do allow requests for features to be submitted to GNATS, > in practice they are hardly ever acted on. We have a sufficient > backlog of things that you can technically consider "problem reports" > to keep us busy for years :-) > > My own priorities are to bring attention to: > > - things that affect data integrity > - regressions introduced in new versions > - various bugs in the kernel > - various bugs in userland > > There are a considerable backlog of the above (we have a lot more users > than we do developers :-) ) > > What I consider secondary problems: > > - problems installing FreeBSD in the first place > - non-supported devices > > We do have a team of bugbusters willing to help people with problems > installing, which has helped to keep the count down to some degree. > However, the 'requests' generally do not get handled -- it takes a > developer wanting to solve a problem that affects him or her before > things get committed. > > mcl I think what Mark might have been fishing for was `enhancements'. Once all major issues have been worked out, or if someone with necessary interest wants to get to the enhancement you proposed in the meantime, the enhancement request will get taken care of. Hint: Sometimes enhancement requests can coincide with bugs though, in which case you can probably bolster support through the community by noting that x86 PAE / x86_64 / x64 support (and other architecture support, like powerpc) doesn't exist. That would definitely help your goals. I can think of at least once case where this has lead to improvements in FreeBSD (HPS's USB2 stack), and I'm sure there are no doubt more... Does that help? Cheers, -Garrett