From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 3 18:26:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA05816A4CE for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:26:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (smtpproxy1.mitre.org [192.160.51.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B14743D55 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:26:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id iB3IQZr26692 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:26:35 -0500 Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CCABF81 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iB3IQYk26574; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:26:34 -0500 Received: from mm112324-2k-1.mitre.org (128.29.24.42) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 11158759; Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:26:21 -0500 Message-ID: <41B0AFCC.1060501@mitre.org> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:26:20 -0500 From: Jason Andresen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Buelow References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <87zn15zoqo.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> In-Reply-To: <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Pertti Kosunen cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:26:36 -0000 Matthias Buelow wrote: > Pertti Kosunen wrote: > >>> The newer cards work very well. I have a X800se PCI-Express card >>> and it works like a charm with X.org 6.8.1 on 5.3. The only thing >>> that's >> >> Isn't that pretty expencive for 2d use? > > > Yes.. that's why I also have Windows installed for a game every now > and then. I just wanted to point out that the current generation > Radeons do, in contrast to what has been claimed before, actually work > with the current Xorg release (which unfortunately hasn't arrived in > ports yet, as it seems, but is available via patchsets from the ports > maintainer). With "work", I mean, solid 2d performance (supported by > the radeon driver, not Vesa). I see 3d support as a nice add-on but > not as the core functionality. IMHO, if you just want 2D, pretty much any bottom of the barrel card will work. Even low end Nvidia or ATI cards (Geforce4 MX, Geforce 2, etc...) will work and they're not very expensive (~$30 new for a Geforce 2 MX). Drivers don't become an issue unless you buy an exotic (or extremely off-brand) card or want 3D graphics.