From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 22 18:13:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A0337B42C for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D5E3A8DE; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:12:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:12:32 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: ben hubbard Cc: Juha Saarinen , Chris Byrnes , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with Message-ID: <20010422201232.A93750@cec.wustl.edu> References: <3AE3753C.E82BCB03@eproduct.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE3753C.E82BCB03@eproduct.org>; from ben@eproduct.org on Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 07:20:13PM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 07:20:13PM -0500, ben hubbard wrote: > This may be way out of left field, but I was thinking about it last night.... > > Would it be possible to filter the mail in anyway with the mail list software > at freebsd.org based on the subject lines? For example, for this message, the > subject line would be > > Subject: [freebsd-stable] Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with > > or some variant. If it didn't have the [freebsd-stable] (change for whatever > the list address was) then the the reply bounces with a polite "you need to > put xxxx in your subject line" message to the original sender. This would > stop the spam (since they usually have specific subject lines) and it would > also (added bonus) make it easier for those of us that filter the incoming > traffic from multiple lists to plop it all in the right folders. > > the flip side is that this adds complication. But is it really all that bad? > If someone has to go find out the list address already anyway, they can read > another line about the subject line, or worse, they just get the bounce back > and get to send it again. Might also stop the various subscribe messages that > end up in the list, too ;-) > > Of course, this may not be possible with the lsitserv software - it's not > something I've ever worked with to any great extent before. With mutt, to reply to this message, I press "g", hit enter, hit enter again, press "y", then type my response. In order to get a "[freebsd-stable] Re: ..." subject, I would have to press "g", hit enter, hold down the arrow keys until it reaches the front of the subject line, type "[freebsd-stable]", hit enter, press "y", then type my response. The arrows and addition more than quadruple the time it takes me to start typing a response. Plus, I would have to clean up old subjects, lest to get "[freebsd-stable] Re: [freebsd-stable] Re: [freebsd-stable] ..." ad nauseum. What you would find after a short time is that the most helpful people--the people who answer many questions every day--will stop responding as frequently. The overall usefulness of the list will decline. Also remember that a great deal of spam (at least most of the stuff that comes to me) has my name as a greeting in the body, or in the subject line. It would be trivial to automate the process of adding [freebsd-stable] to the front of the subject line when the message is sent to freebsd-stable@freebsd.org. This would have us all working extra for no reason. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message