Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:20:14 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Ian Lepore <freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org> Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> Subject: Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-) Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1211081210040.53521@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <1352390005.17290.71.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> References: <CAFYkXjnRzPAkNuc5C0iTNUTe5j=h8ga9VWmE%2BTRdNg_kyJcmFw@mail.gmail.com> <201211062158.qA6Lvt2l039276@fire.js.berklix.net> <CAFYkXjkK6Ls1zVKyeeGWy%2B2bNZqeHGhrxXHKXOpVSY5OkMxrVw@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1211080838550.51828@wonkity.com> <1352390005.17290.71.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 08:45 -0700, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: >> >>> I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) >>> >>> With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) >>> situation is following: >>> >>> 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. However it might bo >>> option to pass some additional featutes parameters with xorg.conf. >>> 2. With no hald and dbus mouse and keyboard does not work in xorg unless >>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" is added to Section "ServerLayout" by >>> hand in xorg.conf. Without this option input does not work even if >>> xorg.conf defines it! AllowEmptyInput=False forces to detect input deviced >>> by Xorg at startup. >> >> No. AllowEmptyInput is wrong. It was causing so many problems that it >> has been removed from later xorg-server releases. > > This is disturbing news. We build embedded systems at work that use X > for presentation and have no input devices. I understand that > AllowEmptyInput is inappropriate to work around the problem we're > discussing here, but that doesn't mean it's never needed. The xorg folks should be able to suggest the right replacement. >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" is the one that means "dont' use Hal to >> detect input devices". >> >>> Thank you for this hint! This could be added to the handbook :-) >>> AllowEmptyInput=False should be a default for Xorg IMO we can report it to >>> the Xorg project! :-) >> >> Really, the simplest solution is to build xorg-server with the HAL >> option disabled. I agree that this should be the default. > > So if you're using xorg-server that was built with hal included (maybe > because you're more a package than a ports kind of person and have no > control over the build), is AutoAddDevices still the right option to > manipulate? That is, will it disable the use of hal and fall back to > honoring the xorg.conf input devices even if the server was built with > hal support? xorg-server with hal support and AutoAddDevices Off in xorg.conf should be equivalent to xorg-server built without hal support. Put another way: if xorg-server is built without hal support, AutoAddDevices is irrelevant, it can't use hal for input device detection anyway.
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