From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Feb 22 23:54:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B240AAAF137 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921C519FF for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B84033C1E; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id DBAAA39843; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:54:14 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Polytropon Cc: questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Got a panic today References: <56CB47A6.9080107@bananmonarki.se> <20160222191320.bc8ed616.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:54:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20160222191320.bc8ed616.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:13:20 +0100") Message-ID: <44bn7847yx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:54:22 -0000 Polytropon writes: > PHY seems to refer to physical characteristics of interfaces. > Again from "dmesg | grep PHY": > > nsphy0: PHY 24 on miibus0 > ukphy0: PHY 1 on miibus1 > > You often see comparable output related to NICs. For example, > if you search "man rl" for the string "PHY", there are refernces > to the physical chipset (physical layer, as opposite to the MAC, > the media-independent layer). It's a reference to the OSI layer 1. Right, but in practice this is a little less abstract. MAC is the IEEE 802.3 area of "Media Access Control". Considerate chip vendors will refer to an EMAC to specify that it's Ethernet, but really most of the time in networking, if you see the term MAC, it will refer to Ethernet, and generally it will refer to the hardware that implements 802.3 MAC. Similarly, "PHY hardware" will usually mean an Ethernet transceiver.