From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 23: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (larry.euronet.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0742737B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p0809.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.46]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5O65Xj27195; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:05:33 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:05:31 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Juha Saarinen" Cc: joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-Id: <20010624080531.1dc1bc4d.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <00cf01c0fc40$c0348db0$0a01a8c0@den2> References: <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <00cf01c0fc40$c0348db0$0a01a8c0@den2> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:00:59 +1200 "Juha Saarinen" wrote: JS> :: The tracking of stable is not for everyone. Noone *needs* to track JS> :: stable. JS> JS> Well, that isn't what the Handbook says: JS> JS> "19.2.2.2. Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE? JS> If you are a commercial user or someone who puts maximum stability of JS> their FreeBSD system before all other concerns, you should consider Emphasis on this word _________________________________^^^^^^^^ JS> Reading that para (plus the ones before that), effectively tells you JS> that -STABLE is what you should use for err.... maximum stability. You JS> get the bugfixes and security fixes that aren't in -RELEASE. Reading further will show that this comes with an *inevitable* price namely that you have to read -stable and be sensible about it. JS> So... you need to track -STABLE, right? JS> :: the peculiar make used by FreeBSD. What we need is an apt-get-like JS> :: upgrade path for security fixes that solves the problem of people The new security fix only branch should serve this need nicely. Now -stable is only needed for those who want/need to track bug fixes and new features. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message