From owner-freebsd-current Wed Feb 27 3:18:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26E937B400; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 03:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1RBIRdN057319; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:18:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: gnn@neville-neil.com, rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Feb 2002 03:57:47 MST." <20020227.035747.68512344.imp@village.org> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:18:27 +0100 Message-ID: <57318.1014808707@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20020227.035747.68512344.imp@village.org>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: >In message: <200202270840.AAA1409806@meer.meer.net> > "George V. Neville-Neil" writes: >: The problem here is process. The FreeBSD project now has more than >: 12 core members and more than 12 committers. With any number larger >: than 12 it is VERY HARD to reach consensus on anything. Without a >: process by which we agree to reach consensus it is impossible. > >There are only only 8 core team members, unless you mean something >different by "core" here than core@freebsd.org. > >Otherwise, I tend to agree with your basic premise that it is process >and not tools at the heart of this problem. In addition to process it might be attitude. Core@ was not elected to be ornamental. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message