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Date:      Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:46:27 -0400
From:      "Gary Palmer" <gpalmer@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jeffrey Barber <jab@rock.anchorage.net>
Cc:        "'freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org'" <freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org>, "'hackers@FreeBSD.ORG'" <hackers@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Slow Etherlink 
Message-ID:  <28202.842917587@orion.webspan.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:00:41 -0800." <01BBA3DF.D5124740@jabpc.rtfm.com> 

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Jeffrey Barber wrote in message ID
<01BBA3DF.D5124740@jabpc.rtfm.com>:
> OK, If we can get past all the sarcasim bull shit!

Perhaps you should phrase your questions better and provide more
relevant information in that case. Complaining about network speed,
and then including results which contradict your problem is BOUND to
get sarcastic responses!

> I realize that the
> ping I showed for Linux seems to be slower than FreeBSD but the point is
> that I have faster telnet response from Linux than I do FreeBSD. For the
> more serious ppl who want to help. Let me rephrase my question: Why
> would pinging and telneting to FreeBSD be slower than that of a Linux
> box?

Why ask about ethernet speed / response times and provide lo0
(loopback) response times? They are two TOTALLY different interfaces,
and are TOTALLY unrelated!

(well, not totally, but they follow different code paths in the kernel
 after a certain point)

> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D255 time=3D0.356 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D1 ttl=3D255 time=3D0.342 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D2 ttl=3D255 time=3D0.362 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D3 ttl=3D255 time=3D0.349 ms
> 
> Linux:
> 
> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D64 time=3D1.1 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D1 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.9 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D2 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.9 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3D3 ttl=3D64 time=3D1.0 ms


> I have never seen the SIMPLEX entries before on other OS's. Can this be =
> the problem or no? I have a 3com Etherlink III isa card installed the =
> FreeBSD system of which I had in a Linux box previously.

AHA! USEFUL INFORMATION ALERT!!!!!

>From the file /sys/i386/conf/LINT:

# ep: 3Com 3C509 (buggy)

(3c509 == EtherLink III)

The driver in FreeBSD isn't up to much I'm afraid, and has been slated
for a re-write for a while. Unfortunately, issues such as kernel
stability tend to take precidence.

Gary
--
Gary Palmer                                          FreeBSD Core Team Member
FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info



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