From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 19:56:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BE9371D77 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c20005815698.690812ed9b0c6ccee5c6a41da2cd63e7@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD0Mg48P6z4Bvv for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c20005815698.690812ed9b0c6ccee5c6a41da2cd63e7@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1595620608; x=1598212608; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=dMNoS24XPWZYU/DD3XSZpCByiBhZ0oYrWiKI0i7/sU4=; b=Fb9VkLhOgkRa4psfEpfx58n2+ou7506E8Nhb5HDxGFx6kkFTmuE6chnZRamO9BtrnrnII8bWJCvWXHNfFoxzDm5lR3hfpSTMinvgxd429eFPA4YqTIYGxLTsxIGrPQFn9Fp7r8rhlWF+EH5T0noi4R7Q3X5H0QmHJwD7hPgEvvU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMjAwMDU4MTU2OTguZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:56:41 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:56:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jz3o7-000NdT-KQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 20:56:39 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 20:56:39 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-Id: <20200724205639.44ceb0e9fa7dfbed6423a715@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <112f4940-4ea3-5baf-b34f-10d67d181eaf@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20200724075954.435fa2fc@archlinux> <7B44C0A4-FCB5-4703-837B-AF2D28667306@boosten.org> <52174f02-7f87-bde3-3410-9f2d7c5efb2b@kicp.uchicago.edu> <112f4940-4ea3-5baf-b34f-10d67d181eaf@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BD0Mg48P6z4Bvv X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=Fb9VkLhO; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c20005815698.690812ed9b0c6ccee5c6a41da2cd63e7@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c20005815698.690812ed9b0c6ccee5c6a41da2cd63e7@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.965]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.959]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.67)[-0.670]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c20005815698.690812ed9b0c6ccee5c6a41da2cd63e7@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c20005815698.690812ed9b0c6ccee5c6a41da2cd63e7@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:56:49 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:04:55 -0500 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Indeed sysadmins are lazy. I call it "lazy enough to do thing well > enough, so you will not have to redo them in a future". There's short term lazy and long term lazy - the latter is by far preferable. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith