From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 20:33:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E932A929 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from smtp-out-02.shaw.ca (smtp-out-03.shaw.ca [64.59.136.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBEB2ED9 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:33:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=ryrf5q5p6c4dCQYR2lAej91p2ozDt6sfPnRAuS/Q8hc= c=1 sm=1 a=Z9FrMq5ANE4A:10 a=QrugwKR0C_UA:10 a=wAGQQ9Az6v0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=ICAaq7hcmGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IbtKDeXwb2+SRU442/pi3A==:17 a=shYRFTWRAAAA:8 a=BWvPGDcYAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=2ELp5fwWTihCoJW1vxcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Wpccw3uv0jEA:10 a=V7tsTZBp22UA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO spqr.komquats.com) ([96.50.7.119]) by smtp-out-02.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2013 14:33:31 -0600 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797B957; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r98KXUgJ058127; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <201310082033.r98KXUgJ058127@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.5 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Kurt Lidl Subject: Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base In-Reply-To: Message from Kurt Lidl of "Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:36:39 -0400." <52542687.7000100@pix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:33:30 -0700 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:33:33 -0000 In message <52542687.7000100@pix.net>, Kurt Lidl writes: > On 10/8/13, Julian Elischer wrote: > > On 10/7/13 11:06 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 10:43:21PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > >>> Hey all, > >>> > >>> RCS was removed from the base system in r256095. If you still want to > >>> use RCS please install either devel/rcs or devel/rcs57. If not, be > >>> sure to check out the alternatives (pun stolen and intended). > >>> > >> Perhaps, a note in src/UPDATING is appropriate? > >> > > ok so what is this, the secret cabal to make FreeBSD useless? > > I'm ccing core as I believe this was not discussed enough in public > > (in fact not discussed AT ALL in any forum I am watching) > > and I officially request a backout of the removal of what I consider > > to be core functionality. > > > > My usual way of doing things is on install to ci EVERYTHING in /etc > > to get a snapsot right the way back to install. > > > > now I have to change things in /etc (and other places) BEFORE I can > > check them in. > > (i.e. get networking up and ports installed) > > not a big thing but I believe that a lot of poeple use ci/co on /etc > > becasue it is "just there" > > > > +1 for keeping a RCS in base. I too use to maintain a bunch of > files in /etc - I have for years and years. I don't particularly > want the GPL'd version - I'd be happiest with the OpenRCS version > (BSD-licensed) from OpenBSD. I've started work on a port (not that this was my highest priority but received a private email that I may want to do this instead of rcs57). Would the majority here rather have it in base? Just finished schlepping the OpenBSD source to my laptop (the link to the OpenRCS site returns a TCP RST). I don't mind either way. It's the groups's and the Project's call. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org