From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 4 23:37:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64D3C8C9; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018981A6B; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554F238043; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:37:42 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id DMpTqX6Ip-iQ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:37:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from terminus.icecube.wisc.edu (terminus.icecube.wisc.edu [172.16.223.97]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3557C38050; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:37:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <52F179C6.2050400@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 17:37:42 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F6m=22?= Subject: Re: opteron a1100 arm References: <1391538649.19169.79261269.3C5F49D1@webmail.messagingengine.com> <493DEB39-C4B4-409E-B8B2-B1B11E013754@netgate.com> <20140204223528.GF23872@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com> <60985.1391554164@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <60985.1391554164@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Zander , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , Jim Thompson X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 23:37:43 -0000 On 02/04/14 16:49, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com>, =?UTF-8?B?IkMuIEJlcmdzdHLDtm0i?= w > rites: > >> Think about how much power interconnects takes, PCIe and everything else.. > Not to mention the raw savings of avoiding all the crap that has > been nailed inexpertly onto the X86 platform over the years... > > Did you notice that "X86 arduino" Intel just launched ? > > Does anybody but me cringe at the thought of an Arduino with UEFI, ACPI, > microcode updates and SMM ticking away in the background to make sure > it doesn't run too hot ? > This AMD platform has UEFI and ACPI, so that's at least 2 out of 4... -Nathan