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Date:      Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:16:21 +1030 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        newton@communica.com.au (Mark Newton)
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: BoS: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2).
Message-ID:  <199611180446.PAA17729@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <9611180435.AA17191@communica.com.au> from Mark Newton at "Nov 18, 96 03:05:38 pm"

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Mark Newton stands accused of saying:
> Michael Smith wrote:
>  
>  > Mark's sense of warmth is perhaps slightly over-smug,
> 
> Have you ever known me to be any different? :-)

Ah well, I guess not.  (I guess my Pringle lease has expired too.  *sigh*)

> It would be foolish of me to argue to have it changed, though :-)

But no more foolish that many of your other crusades 8)

> That would have allowed a user to obtain a setuid shell owned by the
> "smtp" user by exploiting the latest bug.  While not as serious as a
> root shell, I'm still not wonderfully happy about the possibility.

Perhaps.  Still, I argue along similar lines to you; no users on mail
machines, no mail on user machines.  In fact, I think that shell accounts
have very little use in most environments.  (Teaching and development
are about the only two left IMHO.)

> Mark Newton                               Email: newton@communica.com.au

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