From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 8 07:34:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDC5AA00C9 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 07:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71BA1EB3 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 07:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (c122-106-195-17.belrs5.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.195.17]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u187YFLE075594 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:34:22 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u187YAW4049295 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:34:10 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u187Y9PF049294; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:34:09 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:34:09 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: John Marino Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Removing documentation Message-ID: <20160208073409.GC63030@server.rulingia.com> References: <56B754A8.3030605@marino.st> <56B7E6F2.9050906@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56B7E6F2.9050906@marino.st> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded STARTTLS authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]); Mon, 08 Feb 2016 18:34:23 +1100 (AEDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:34:28 -0000 --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-Feb-08 01:53:06 +0100, John Marino wrote: >hmm? The fact that it builds on a dirty host system is a liability; its >a major flaw. The typical Synth build environment is the host base >system minus the installed packages, so that's clearly superior. There's nothing in that statement that makes Synth "clearly superior" to portmaster. It suggests that Synth might be an alternative to poudriere. How does Synth handle ports that depend on themselves (Modula, Java and Go, off the top of my head)? Does this mean that if I already have a JDK installed, Synth is going to download one of the JDK packages anyway, just so it can build a new JDK in a "clean" environment? And there are also a number of cases where a port's dependency can be fulfilled by a number of unrelated ports - eg graphics/jpeg and graphics/jpeg-turbo can both fulfil a dependency on libjpeg.so. How does Synth decide which to use? --=20 Peter Jeremy --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWuETxXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs0GMIP/30XMpdU8vIdUb3q/hZo3HGL Imh2JDya4UQmnUzO5oUrZy1I4k+1D2qdzUa8PJsOoO4iMXd4BvraekjVAVvFoudZ Cuk4C5Vzb7X4sZyFpEnX6DgL6pUjEQ5MUG71PfrOnwvzA+7dJVaingWbNsbw/F03 fNDN0Lesj9gFv6UNGZThQg9wHtJlu8vm0M3S5UmaGHOGteoytz9tVv1VXPp1FnWf YjTb6B16XozrUyVoadCtQK/F2V91mbZq/VBT8/I2gr21aA0fHysYndprIlSKX121 5bSB/n3KyySEZL6XI1cRJ/yrHKzCBR2MCddAeNJmq02HNR0FCOW6rDIWYCWD8B1o eJ2L2DPvdUmZsGI9LDdn7HMPhDD9fBckYizp8brzboklZH71ILycmVWUJPrMLqL5 6PTLaA/lv4X2yqlUY4VigUFgDBIoJhyQk9lpC4zVn+ikgSf4Uivt9k9RHLcE3Ueh QAtHB4Iu/X/sPB5CbAdBmTW0mLSYpdR1BM6p9pp0XQlGi/ZdojFfwnN5RsX62kzR 8uRXkhrrRjgIVcGd3RqUnGp3jFrre7ncOi+azRe4mOVCmThiR0J8vaQkFDVxGkv9 GwJFyLaXmLX9ov7O6OikmufNrh30cXqrhyaK4eZuM9S8icLPez24EJJVM113PjuU EEBwXIInjH4+JS5kr7Ny =z5Ay -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2--