From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 5 2:49: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ECB37B405 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 02:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B56443FCB for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 02:49:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h25AmrLT044651; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 02:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h25AmrCj044650; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 02:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 02:48:53 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Subscriber Cc: "FreeBSD-Current (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Plea for base system trim Message-ID: <20030305104852.GB44555@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Subscriber , "FreeBSD-Current (E-mail)" References: <2F03DF3DDE57D411AFF4009027B8C36704129AE6@exchange-uk.isltd.insignia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2F03DF3DDE57D411AFF4009027B8C36704129AE6@exchange-uk.isltd.insignia.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Subscriber : > Would the powers that be please consider removing sendmail, > bind and openssl from the base system, as was done for perl > with 5.0? Please don't restart this flamewar. When we have a better installer, then it may be possible in the future to select between multiple mailers (for example), but nobody is going to rip out widely-used functionality because someone has a pet peeve. (And yes, this *is* just a pet peeve; if it were not, you'd see people complaining about ntpd, ipfilter, pnpinfo, etc. instead.) Check the archives. As far as security updates are concerned, keep in mind that base system components are actually *better* supported by the FreeBSD security officer than are ports. If you really want the ports version of something, put the appropriate NO_* option in your make.conf and install the ports version instead. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message