From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 4 02:52:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D303D6FF; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 02:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E993D7; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 02:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alph.allbsd.org (p1137-ipbf1505funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.212.137]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r042pxWr090436 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:52:09 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r042pvn1097031; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:51:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:51:06 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20130104.115106.785574731377788940.hrs@allbsd.org> To: gjb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r309910 - head/textproc/docproj From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20130104015237.GC21652@glenbarber.us> References: <20130104010502.GB21652@glenbarber.us> <20130104.103013.1716297184205635398.hrs@allbsd.org> <20130104015237.GC21652@glenbarber.us> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.5 on Emacs 23.4 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan__4_11_51_06_2013_787)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:52:09 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.1 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, ONLY1HOPDIRECT,SAMEHELOBY2HOP,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org Cc: svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.org, jgh@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:52:19 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan__4_11_51_06_2013_787)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glen Barber wrote in <20130104015237.GC21652@glenbarber.us>: gj> On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 10:30:13AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: gj> > FYI, setting YES by default for release package build, and null and gj> > display a warning in "make install" are the intentional behavior gj> > because people who blindly install textproc/docproj port tend to gj> > complain about "PDF version does not build" or "dependency is too gj> > large". This is why simply "make install" does not work. The reason gj> > why it is not "no by default" is that it causes inconsistency between gj> > pkg_add and make install (actually all of docproj* packages have gj> > jadetex dependency). One has to choose either, anyway. $JADETEX gj> > knob is a hack added back in the era when there was no OPTIONS, so gj> > converting it to OPTIONS would be more user-friendly. However, gj> > setting the default value is still a separate topic. "no" is harmful gj> > in terms of inconsistency with the pre-built package, and people will gj> > complain even if it is "yes" by default. gj> > gj> > For this reason, we have textproc/docproj-jadetex, gj> > textproc/docproj-nojadetex, and textproc/docproj with no default gj> > WITH_JADETEX. These are redundant and a bit messy due to historical gj> > reasons and they can be reconstructed into the two in a cleaner way, gj> > but if we want to change them, it should be done in whole. gj> > gj> gj> Yes, this (in entirety) was an afterthought. gj> gj> So, how about this? We make textproc/docproj the default with gj> WITH_JADETEX enabled, and make textproc/docproj-nojadetex a slave port gj> that sets WITHOUT_JADETEX post-conversion to optionsng? I think this gj> solves both user expectations with undefined WITH_JADETEX, and keeps the gj> -nojadetex option still available. What do you think? Yes, it (+ removing docproj-jadetex) looks reasonable to me, too. I was thinking to remove TeX dependency entirely after XML toolchain worked with printable formats but it takes some more time. gj> BTW, I see that doceng@ is not maintainer for the slave ports for gj> textproc/docproj. Can we change this so this is all under our control? I think there is no problem with changing the maintainership (actually, no MAINTAINER line is needed for the slaves). Just to make sure, it would be good to send a ping to the author before the change. -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan__4_11_51_06_2013_787)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlDmQ5oACgkQTyzT2CeTzy02/ACggs1BdCNodBHrpQ65ebR088bl y1EAoNNzoWVDcBHcVTXt1IYqLUaPnI08 =x43U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jan__4_11_51_06_2013_787)----