From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 6 1:41:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (castles516.castles.com [208.214.165.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A844714E94; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01480; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:47:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200001060947.BAA01480@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Darren Reed Cc: shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp (Yoshinobu Inoue), louie@TransSys.COM, committers@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jan 0100 20:27:21 +1100." <200001060927.UAA03779@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 01:47:13 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Personally, I think the timeline laid down - 25(?) days from now > until 4.0 release is too aggressive. Given that the announcement > (to me) seemed to be rather autocratic and possibly driven by > marketting factors ("we need 4.0 out now regardless" ?) than by > the general stability and maturity of -current. Well, that's the > impression I get from an announcement encouraging people to do > heavy testing in the next 10 days. I would encourage Jordan and > others to have a rethink about the timeframe for 4.0 and what plans > they have for it feature wise. The 4.0 release has been scheduled for Q1 2000 since at least June last year. This has been a generally known fact since then. The feature freeze was announced for Dec 15th (but was largely suspended in order to accomodate new work and reality in general). Unfortunately, the 3.0 release made it very clear that simply sliding the release date indefinitely for "technical" reasons results in the release never happening. The alternative is this - people that for whatever reason haven't noticed that the release has been looming ever closer suddenly realise that it's right over their shoulder and burst out in surprise. > To give you some idea, Solaris8 will have been in *beta* for ~9 months > when it is released and will support IPv6 (telnet, inetd services, NFS) > and IPSec when it is released around March. FreeBSD is no less an OS > than Solaris is, when it comes to completeness. I'd love to have Sun's resources, not to mention their mechanisms for motivating their developers. 8( -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message