From owner-cvs-all Fri Jun 16 13:21:30 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF95737B680; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:21:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08187; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:17:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02121; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:17:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200006162017.VAA02121@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Brian Somers , Garrett Wollman , "Daniel C. Sobral" , Alfred Perlstein , Nate Williams , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_socket2.c src/sys/sys socket.h In-Reply-To: Message from Bill Fumerola of "Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:17:32 EDT." <20000616141732.E8523@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:17:07 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 06:37:48PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > If natd had been written in the kernel (which no-one would have objected > > > > to), you would have the exact above scenario. > > > > > > I would have, strenuously. > > > > Is there a big difference between natd and ipnat ? Or do you object > > to ipnat ? > > I was going to mention that, but I don't use ipfilter and hadn't looked > to see how application specific ipnat gets. I'm no expert with ipnat either - it may be ``cleaner'' than libalias in that it may avoid protocol-specific knowledge (I think you need a plug-in to do active ftp properly for example, and all the other protocols have to be done via a proxy), but then you can argue that NATing is a disgusting hak anyway.... > -- > Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM > e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message