From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 14 19:58:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A72C5D; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 19:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8073BF77; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 19:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ib11so3344407vcb.6 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:58:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ze/1KuWFhUcRIDSdz4w6Y6tPgTgz6W8Rb6qLUAKmYhY=; b=HXvzZdDIkn50hyJnoJyfFKcoBIeeHg5wed14UQ47pgxRECT+dzd0zTBjCtdGDsV2Dn byR3ckpuPsEswt3pwI0IBa9QpATm67OKSe4yEJ0gUNEIfQNFCl3C8Z9lXMmQPLAbyofg k4OPZNivAF9lJt8xJqM05rGGS5L9BxANKsJgzK8BxkATnVEAvlLWU6/tsuFGXn+7gGr7 exZNSIUrbwmqlJzwZcW1JKaHWACB98UI/tLMPN+CrJRqa5AKDgtWHiKlS6N0zoRbbEh0 DC07+XTe8NM6xzFPkU07MTQgd+EPtwSt/EdgZwTaB3vpoTrSkqTPoLSuKc2IQGvccEAI Sg7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.146.195 with SMTP id te3mr103487veb.33.1365969534359; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.61.11 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:58:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <36562.1365960622.5652758659450863616@ffe10.ukr.net> References: <20130411201805.GD76816@FreeBSD.org> <7D8ACD5C-821D-4505-82E4-02267A7BA4F8@FreeBSD.org> <96D56EAE-E797-429E-AEC9-42B19B048CCC@FreeBSD.org> <6DEDD3EA-45C1-4549-AA13-5E4F6674BE3E@samsco.org> <2D0B66DB-E232-4F34-9D01-57DF226B9BAA@FreeBSD.org> <2DA4A561-3304-432D-B5D1-7053A27E758F@yahoo.com> <20130414160648.GD96431@in-addr.com> <36562.1365960622.5652758659450863616@ffe10.ukr.net> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:58:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re[2]: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: wishmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Gary Palmer , "current@freebsd.org" , "net@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 19:58:56 -0000 I agree with this, we dont need 3 packet filters, it seems like we should focus the people interested in working on packet filters,toward the packet filter most actively maintained, the fact that there is 3 in base is overkill, Just depreciate it and be done with it.... a new email, asking for help to bring pf closer to OpenBSD, is more of a productive conversation. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, wishmaster wrote: > > > --- Original message --- > From: "Gary Palmer" > Date: 14 April 2013, 19:06:59 > > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? > > > > That may work short term, but the ENOMAINTAINER problem will quickly > creep > > up again as kernel APIs change. If the author has lost interest in > > maintaining the FreeBSD port of ipfilter then unless someone steps > forward > > to carry on the work, I don't see much of a future for ipfilter in > > FreeBSD > > > > Do we honestly need three packet filters? > > Yes! This is the most clever thought in this thread. Why we need 3 > firewalls? Two packet filters it's excess too. > We have two packet filters: one with excellent syntax and > functionality but with outdated bandwidth control mechanism (aka ALTQ); > another - with nice traffic shaper/prioritization (dummynet)/classification > (diffused) but with complicated implementation in not trivial tasks. > May be the next step will be discussion about one packet filter in the > system?.. > > Cheers, > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Sam Fourman Jr.