From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 11 19:49:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADE4FF75 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 862241996 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77F77B988; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:49:37 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newcons comming Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:15:53 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.4-CBSD-20130906; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20131025151847.2a1b83de93335040797ceaf1@ddteam.net> In-Reply-To: <20131025151847.2a1b83de93335040797ceaf1@ddteam.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201402111315.53753.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:49:37 -0500 (EST) Cc: Aleksandr Rybalko X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:49:38 -0000 I've been using newcons for quite a while on my laptop (X220) and it generally works well. A few comments: - When I kldload i915kms on the console, ttyv0 always scrolls down so that the previous screen contents are just off the "top" of the screen. Other vt's do not do this. (For example, on ttyv1, the initial login prompt remains on the screen at the top.) If I login on on ttyv1 and run the kldload from there, the behavior is generally the same: ttyv1-N all preserve the existing screen contents, but ttyv0 always scrolls up. This is a minor annoyance, but given that it works for all the other vt's, it seems like ttyv0 should work as well. - I get one complaint about an invalid ioctl when starting hald even with freshly compiled ports: consolectl: unknown ioctl: t:40007413 - The few times I've had panics in X, newcons has switched back to ttyv0 and I was able to use DDB just fine. \0/ - I just had the same softclock related panic Adrian reported for the first time yesterday (and I've resumed probably 20-30 times without an issue). - Occasionally if I move the mouse around constantly on the console I can get the mouse cursor to leave an artifact. If I move the mouse cursor back over the artifact it gets cleaned up, but only the pixels the mouse cursor overlaps with (so if I try I can make it only clean up part of the artifact). Switching to another VT and back cleans up the artifacts as well. -- John Baldwin