From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 14 04:24:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401DC16A4CE for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (rrcs-sw-24-73-246-106.biz.rr.com [24.73.246.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB1F43D67 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:24:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@bigtex.jrv.org) Received: from bigtex.jrv.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i0ECObo8093996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:24:37 -0600 (CST) Received: (from james@localhost) by bigtex.jrv.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id i0ECObwr093993; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:24:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:24:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200401141224.i0ECObwr093993@bigtex.jrv.org> From: James Van Artsdalen To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <17426.6989030459$1073697945@news.gmane.org> <20040113070204.GA764@curacao.n2it.nl> Subject: ATA (Re: AMD64 support in 5.x versions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:24:49 -0000 > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:02:04 +0100 > From: Bill Squire > I've got several large SCSI disks spinning and have since purchased an > ordinary ATA-133 IDE and a SATA drive. SCSI vs. ATA can be a religious argument. On the practical side if you have more than 4 GB of RAM I don't know of any cost-effective solution that can address memory above 4 GB directly, without using bounce-buffers. I understand that some Adaptec SCSI host adapters can do this (PCI "dual address cycle" or a full 64-bit bus if available) without resorting to exotic RAID controllers. Highpoint sells an RR-1820 PCI-X (64-bit 133 MHz) serial ATA controller but I cannot get them to send me any technical documentation and cannot get it to work with Windows with the supplied drivers. Silicon Image has a 3124 chip which is PCI-X and ought to be able to directly address more than 4 GB of RAM but I don't know of any card that uses this yet. I have 8 GB of RAM and use a HighPoint 1542 sATA controller, and am no doubt exercising the bounce buffers extensively. This seems entirely stable but for performance I wouldn't want to do it with a disk-bound system in a production environment.