From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 15:52:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A928637B409 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1BA44141 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:50:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru) Received: from pobrecita.freebsd.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h45MoMrO043564; Tue, 6 May 2003 02:50:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by pobrecita.freebsd.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h45MoLhr043563; Tue, 6 May 2003 02:50:21 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 02:50:21 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Daniel Eischen Message-ID: <20030505225021.GA43345@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20030505214605.GA41803@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Subject: Re: `Hiding' libc symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:52:03 -0000 On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 18:14:45 -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > symbols in order to satisfy the needs of the threads library > and to separate libc_r from libc, I would kindly suggest that > you leave things alone. But if want to change things, please > make sure they work with all the threads libraries that we > currently have. I don't want the burden of doing this nor > have it impact our current efforts. Please calm down, I don't want to break threads badly or anything like. Especially when I don't understands threads details. At this stage we just discuss here how to make things better. My point will be clear answering on this simple question: What produce less errors in application and libraries? a) Allow application to replace any standard function. b) Produce linker error on such attempts. Please also note that I not treat functions like err(), warn() etc. as standard, so namespace.h is right for them.