From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 13:04:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77327106564A for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: from web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 367CF8FC1D for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: (qmail 2774 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Apr 2008 13:04:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.hk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PV8lIqxXwnAumXNkhLZkNicwEuLbn86td6fsC2lKd0jleuogbTc52IMG47eXOSP3On6TqwCNVkEp++TRr2sPGwo1rJJobWFEAOXi8/AC1rJspNJl224A4AWoS/zKrcqRMqUnHVRrf4IiKP+IGEZxbIeXpBNPC8dUScQUlUg0upQ=; X-YMail-OSG: iCeIfJkVM1nbvD_rAwdYZvOqHQZaBjMhysqeEJnVqKLWtBNNZCXsxio4UGVpBUp8ETz.tdV8dstLZRvsp3MIXiUo3sK2ZwQ_y6OgnfXeczLblEDgjooO5pMfp6U__y4BOHyreb3QbA-- Received: from [61.15.61.52] by web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:04:00 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:04:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Dung To: Mike Meyer In-Reply-To: <20080331172552.313e8d49@bhuda.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <313741.2077.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Feature request X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:04:01 -0000 --- Mike Meyer wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:18:56 -0700 (PDT) > Patrick Dung wrote: > > > 3. Support LDAP SSO out of the box > > > > Linux/Solaris/AIX have native LDAP SSO support. > > I have asked about this feature before. > > > > The problem is whether it should integrate OpenLDAP to base system. > > Why OpenLDAP? Why not one of the other ldap implementations available > in the ports? In particular, do any of them already have plugins for > use with pam? > OpenLDAP, nss_ldap, pam_ldap should be the stable. It was around for years and most Linux distro come with it. For Solaris, it comes with Sun Microsystems implementation of LDAP library. > > BTW, I see ISC Bind, Sendmail and Amd automounter is in base. > > Yes, but you're asking to move a major chunk of functionality into > the > base from ports. That doesn't really happen very often, for lots of > good reasons. Those reasons are often used to suggest that the > packages you just named be moved *out* of the base system, but that's > not much easier than moving things into it. > > The other issue is - well, how much use is this for ports? After all, > most of the servers you're going to install come from ports, so if > they don't play here, then there's not much of a win. In the past, in my University. There are several computer labs. They run around 200 Solaris and Linux workstations. I guess the total number of students in the faculty is around a thousand. Of course LDAP SSO comes into play. > > > 4. LVM and file systems > > As of FreeBSD 7.0, ZFS is ported. > > This is great as FreeBSD do not have LVM in the past. > > True, there's no "volume manager" per se. On the other hand, most of > the functionality provided by a volume manager is available through > the geom system. Frankly, geom is a lot saner than the volume > managers > I've dealt with. > > > I am sure there is still room for improvement. > > For example: ZFS/UFS shrink support, native file system journaling. > > Um, is something wrong with gjournal? Or for that matter, soft > updates > (which solve the same problem that journaling does, only with lower > overhead)? > > FreeBSD is an open source, volunteer driven project. A list of "nice > to haves" is cool for your personal use, but if you want to actually > make any of them happen, then you're the best person to do > that. Either start coding yourself, or convince somebody else to do > it > (and you'll find cash offers work fairly well). Even then, it may not > make it into the base system. Being available as a port is often > considered sufficient, or it may be that your changes aren't > considered appropriate for some other reason, like duplicating > functionality that already exists. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/consulting.html > Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more > information. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text3.com