From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Thu Jan 16 07:51:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21F722CB44; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 07:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47yxFw34dCz4bmS; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 07:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13:0:0:0:5]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 00G7onSs021891 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 16 Jan 2020 07:50:50 GMT (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 00G7omgD028278 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:50:48 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts To: Ed Maste References: <202001150747.00F7lqiG071097@repo.freebsd.org> Cc: Warner Losh , Nathan Whitehorn , Oliver Pinter , Ben Woods , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <781a059d-d409-c6db-14b0-827055325edd@grosbein.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:50:43 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47yxFw34dCz4bmS X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.94 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.939,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0] X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 07:51:00 -0000 16.01.2020 4:41, Ed Maste wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 16:10, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> >> There are multiple scenarios there ZFS may be sub-optimal at least: small i386 virtual guests >> or 32-bit only hardware like AMD Geode, or big amd64 SSD-only systems with bhyve and multiple guests >> that need lots of memory and should not fight with ZFS for RAM etc. > > That may well be the case, but our defaults should represent the > configuration that's desirable to the largest set of users, and IMO > that's ZFS in most cases today. > > It might be that we should default to UFS on i386 and ZFS on amd64? Also, size of the media should be considered as ZFS is not feasible for small media. That is, ZFS has its minimum system requirements that should not be ignored by installer.