From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 15:21:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3316A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:21:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.41.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C1E43D4C; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9IFLPQf016753; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:21:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: (from rv@localhost) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9IFLOcR016752; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:21:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr: rv set sender to herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr using -f Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:21:24 +0200 From: Herve Quiroz To: Vizion Message-ID: <20051018152124.GA16544@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Vizion , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <200510171522.17180.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <4354DF92.4050402@ebs.gr> <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510180730.56069.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Wes Peters , Scot Hetzel , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:21:29 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 07:30:52AM -0700, Vizion wrote: > >This can be done today, with an eclipse-plugins meta-port, similar to > >the php5-extensions one. I may even find some time to work on it. > > Wow > > That is great > > That is what I have been arguing for for three months!! Yes, but you have been arguing for /usr/ports/eclipse and /usr/ports/eclipse/plugins which are both major changes to ports framework whereas php5-extensions is just a port as any other in the *existing* framework. And I remember suggesting something similar with a plugin support using MASTERDIR months ago. Anyway, if this is just a matter of having the same as lang/php5-extensions, I fully agree with the approach. Moreover, I am glad to see that we have come to agree on some point (although I don't know yet if people from freebsd-eclipse@ will effectively chose that particular approach). Now regarding the new non-virtual category, I think this goes beyond the scope of the freebsd-java@ team so I'll let others (freebsd-ports@ and probably portmgr@) deal with this new issue. FWIW, I remember some earlier discussion regarding the creation of a new category (IIRC it was about splitting 'net' into 'net-p2p' and such) where hundreds of ports were concerned and the discussion not only took a long time but as you can see these new categories never hit the ports tree. So I guess you'll have to be patient and explain your point in a much humble fashion than what you did for this eclipse plugin framework discussion. Herve