From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:11:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD87106566B for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from super_bisquit@yahoo.com) Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAC0F8FC13 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2011 23:11:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.36] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2011 23:11:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2011 23:11:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 587353.31625.bm@omp1036.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 91320 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2011 23:11:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1295651487; bh=Sk572MXxH015Fw/taFvaKl/BTIq/Te2oMKHpNisH6Pk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FPENZj4HmB8X5DhG0pYXYp0wjlD7UmNrSe5FP2zr4tsV84/ovpb4C2KImD6ef9y1FttmwDkJ7Y5aiTh0gtiyfOOssq/os1R3Dv2rmJ6cxMnTagCrQkVMHKQZ7/DGo0plymz0YOkF5dkFKiYef+H31W07sWszIIbQiiZ29QkrMrw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KHHKUw5eD1FwkhuHHo1JevEwPGts1dcxUjgotLwNRTxMdA6TPo4ot3e5rJn8BBWXTocVYqO34iYd9hUQ3EDfeteW4a/7Zz9Ktran+L9wI6aBgOVQOrGUcIVYKBCLU2n+r9nlQjxpYwPIkJ01NINij9G+HlU3LChDTkwz17Dt51Q=; Message-ID: <287905.79246.qm@web110106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Pxdc_BYVM1mr_EdPUmnodJyDYaolm_bNqZmN9alfQnBUgjS 8SiUzExftegmxESxs516snfoi5X3J46WYReODV1Z3Gu2YAN3exSZBaFVLUrg 5ck2kBx4NVkMDidGLKjJGKm91NlgqZ0yDeUgEatis79y7.fyUg34eqE0aNOj Pfnxf96z_paVivw5saP.AaUNuPlj9LuBTILmyVWpKggl.bS42zOeLz6dqINL JN44GIkavfGGNHR52O2fcveDqir35vnoUvkKZRw9iF5KsRcMN0nTAK2OrUi2 Aqm3mvKpWvPApgpmIgI5sJ9weeAAHTbDou39rFflIeTavec73Hg-- Received: from [98.192.248.217] by web110106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:11:27 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:11:27 -0800 (PST) From: Super Biscuit To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:27:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Should I even try? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:11:28 -0000 Everything doesn't build. The only version or project similar for powerpc i= s tenfourfox and I am having trouble enough building it on Linux. LLVM-GCC4= isn't curently building. Kazehakase won't build. Some boards have trouble = with AGP while others don't. OpenBoot can change default cards while no one= knows how to do the same with Open Firmware. LXDE and Xfce4 both build wit= h the former causing the pointer to go to the upper left corner and the lat= ter having all applications open in the upper left corner. I have no idea i= f a /boot/loader.conf file can even be used on FreeBSD-PPC. I don't have a degree in computer science nor do I have any certification.= =20 I do have a PowerMac G3 Blue and White. I do have=A0 PowerMac G4 Quicksilve= r. I do use both of these daily. I will soon install FreeBSD on the iMac G4= and use it daily.=20 I am not a programmer. I can tell the difference between lagging and optimal performance. I am not always the most sociable, stable, or friendly person. My tutorials are written so that a person with a GED can read and use them. (If you wonder, I have an associates in business, certfied as a chef, licen= sed for selling options, certified for sanitation, hotel management certifi= cation, and a bunch of other stuff. IE I am not stupid.) With all of my complaining,=A0 narcissism, and self-pity aside... is it even worth for a normal/layman to attempt anything? =0A=0A=0A