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Date:      Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:12:04 +0200
From:      "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>, Andre Albsmeier <andre@akademie3000.de>, Marc Tardif <intmktg@CAM.ORG>, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: ccd with other filesystems
Message-ID:  <20001016191204.A17349@rohrbach.de>
In-Reply-To: <20001014193120.D1489@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:31:20PM -0700
References:  <20001001114540.G43885@wantadilla.lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010012311270.5871-100000@besplex.bde.org> <20001001190350.B304@rohrbach.de> <20001014193120.D1489@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>

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let's discuss this in the lounge at the con in two days ;-)
whoever wins pays the dinner *grin*
/k

Greg Lehey(grog@lemis.com)@Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:31:20PM -0700:
> On Sunday,  1 October 2000 at 19:03:50 +0200, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote:
> > Bruce Evans(bde@zeta.org.au)@Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:32:29PM +1100:
> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sunday,  1 October 2000 at  4:09:37 +0200, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote:
> >>>> i dont quite know why it is still possible doing a newfs on a 'c'
> >>>> partition, since the partition type is 'unused' and not
> >>>> '4.2BSD'. newfs should check this and throw an error while providing
> >>>> an expert-only-feature command line option to explicitly override
> >>>> it.
> >>>
> >>> I think this is a bug in newfs.
> >>
> >> This is a feature of newfs.  It is almost device-independent.  E.g., to
> >> create a filesystem in a regular file with no label in sight:
> >>
> >>     dd if=/dev/zero of=foo oseek=2779 count=1
> >>     # -v and ./foo work around device dependence.
> >>     # -T floppy is so that I don't have to type a lot of args for this example.
> >>     newfs -v -T floppy ./foo
> >
> > and thats exactly the point... if you use -v it should work, if you dont
> > the partition type must be 4.2BSD and it must not be mounted.
> > no more no less? not reasonable?
> 
> No, that's not really the issue.  -v just says "don't make assumptions
> about the partition from the device name".  What we really need here
> is a "force" flag ("yes, I know it's not a 4.2BSD partition, but do it
> anyway").  Unfortunately, -f is already taken.
> 
> Greg
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