From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 12:32:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C221065676 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2898FC19 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so4666093fxm.13 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:32:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=moEj8im/JP0lLvSgxjaBNSntLGr9B7IMmZnnLw1mWcM=; b=h4S69gtEOdgYOJ0h9NM71MQjl6JXSSAiJ8K1uwkFAXBp3CVpXhCk0gnB/p1aQ5gVs7 BUucGcySbyj0rIPRCIFMyrFdIqfojqz3NWSB3rK5lYcSBGr9vNEIkNF+ER0Fbruxnh0a ZhY6wrd7HgpUpS+th/OotyplSAh+X63QQgbB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G1HUkFsEZF5sAjzp8m8h+sOERM16D5dHEYVdyUJeVtdC/Rg8eWdMwvEQ+J0IL0Qlzy UPtsGGT/1ZlKvlf4dXGnqU10My/w6sOp6bSeyQa29D9UyITxFzUM03gxdCljdFvpmJXI fXEWnuRkuF7ttiQaNj7vJFh29FvtdiXNAMXp0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.153.5 with SMTP id x5mr111545hbb.128.1279801957001; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.160.201 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:32:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100722112643.GA1570@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:32:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Ruben de Groot , krad , Cristiano Deana , "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:32:39 -0000 On 22 July 2010 12:26, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 07:35:48PM +0100, krad typed: > > > > while we are on the topic of debugging I would recomend exim as an MTA. I > > manage a few large enterprise mail systems with 10M + active accounts. A > lot > > of them are legacy systems that we gained through acquisitions. I > generally > > have to support them until we can get the accounts migrated onto the main > > platform. They are a mixture of exim, postfix, qmail, and sendmail, and > > quite often are in a poor state when we first get our hands on them. I > have > > to say when you are getting mail routing issues exim is by the far the > > easiest to debug mainly due to the -bt option. When you combine it with > the > > debug flag it produced a very detailed output on the mail routing. I have > > never found such a feature in all the other MTA's above. > > Actually, the -bt option comes from sendmail originally ;) > > yep I know exim is sendmail cli compatible, but the output from sendmail is not the same on exim (interactive prompt). You can probably get similar output from sendmail, but with most things sendmail it is archaic and obfuscated.