From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 10:53:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5462F106564A; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A5E8FC18; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p4FC4350F.dip.t-dialin.net [79.196.53.15]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0416B844049; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:52:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [85.94.224.20]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71D7613D1; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:52:42 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1327056763; bh=x9VAniCRofzewibnoSieuGqXGF0yqbmDTDl229C18YI=; h=Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CtLzc+ad94DY/fQVOGwYoCL5ftt7cWCAYbKXlpBpDHRRZiJKRQ41zCfEHOLMLZRMd GUHe/RhPuUbZWMOKVjZavp2He4EvwtAaYzznj6GyzoCmWq3WLw93DKURaSkj2qaEcC sq16hslLH9cLQ0Tb9Vg7poKkuvEwzbRvzopIfnYxhKmo2EhZD5fQh60rf1u50Xw6hy Znt1U2zWtH7ECg1mzhLS40dj8mo/FHswRe4mWAltwe90NJ2st2yxyWjVtB2DpT8GNh ECA9uawzeJUZCQxOTt8TkZ+v+5T3prUKmeqgsBx7WuB+2YT+gMWO0SqdHpEngL35V2 0UHFtE/9b1YqA== Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:51:35 +0100 Message-ID: Importance: normal From: Alexander Leidinger To: adrian@freebsd.org, john@kozubik.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: 0416B844049.A34E5 X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.099, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1327661567.11721@FUOhov9WcKlmPXY8lZLNlw X-EBL-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:59:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, dougb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:53:00 -0000 SGksCgpJIHRoaW5rIHNvbWUgdG9vbHMgY291bGQgaGVscCBoZXJlLiBJZiB1c2VycyBhcmUgYWJs ZSB0byBzdWJtaXQgcGF0Y2hlcyB0byBicmFuY2hlcyB0aGV5IGFyZSBpbnRlcmVzdGVkIGluIGFu ZCBzb21lIGF1dG9tYXRpYyBjb21waWxlL3N0eWxlL3doYXRldmVyIHRlc3RpbmcgZm9yIHRoZW0s IGl0IHdvdWxkIGFscmVhZHkgaGVscC4gU2VlIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cubGVpZGluZ2VyLm5ldC9ibG9n LyBmb3IgYSBtb3JlIGRldGFpbGVkIGV4cGxhbmF0aW9uIG9mIHRoaXMuCgpCeWUsCkFsZXhhbmRl ci4KCi0tIApTZW5kIHZpYSBhbiBBbmRyb2lkIGRldmljZSwgcGxlYXNlIGZvcmdpdmUgYnJldml0 eSBhbmQgdHlwb2dyYXBoaWMgYW5kIHNwZWxsaW5nIGVycm9ycy4gCgpBZHJpYW4gQ2hhZGQgPGFk cmlhbkBmcmVlYnNkLm9yZz4gaGF0IGdlc2NocmllYmVuOi4uIGFuZCBwZW9wbGUgX2RvXyByZWFs aXNlIHRoYXQgdGhpcyBpcyBhbGwgbW9zdGx5IGRyaXZlbiBieSB2b2x1bnRlZXJzLApyaWdodD8K ClRoZSBjb21wYW5pZXMvaW5kaXZpZHVhbHMgdGhhdCBfY291bGRfIHJ1biB0aGlzIGtpbmQgb2Yg dGhpbmcgZG8gaXQKaW50ZXJuYWxseS4gU28geW91J3JlIGxlZnQgd2l0aCB2b2x1bnRlZXJzIGRv aW5nIHRoZSBwdWJsaWMgcmVsZWFzZXMKaW5zdGVhZCBvZiB0aGUgdmVuZG9ycyB3aG8gYXJlIGFz a2luZyBmb3IgaXQuCgpIb25lc3RseSwgSSB0aGluayB0aGUgcmVAIGFuZCBwb3J0cyBidWlsZGlu ZyB0ZWFtcyB3b3VsZCBfbG92ZV8gc29tZSBoZWxwLgpJZiB5b3UnZCBsaWtlIHRvIHNlZSB0aGlz IGhhcHBlbiwgc3RlcCB1cCBhbmQgb2ZmZXIgeW91ciBhc3Npc3RhbmNlLiBUaGF0J3MKdGhlIG1v c3QgbGlrZWx5IHdheSB0byBhY2hpZXZlIHlvdXIgZ29hbC4KCgpBZHJpYW4KX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KZnJlZWJzZC1oYWNrZXJzQGZyZWVi c2Qub3JnIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdApodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuZnJlZWJzZC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0 aW5mby9mcmVlYnNkLWhhY2tlcnMKVG8gdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUsIHNlbmQgYW55IG1haWwgdG8gImZy ZWVic2QtaGFja2Vycy11bnN1YnNjcmliZUBmcmVlYnNkLm9yZyIKCg==