From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 06:41:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633EF106566B; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 06:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F448FC14; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 06:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pB26fXxg088986; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:41:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pB26fXKH088985; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:41:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:41:33 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Max Khon Message-ID: <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-current Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 06:41:33 -0000 On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 11:56:31AM +0700, Max Khon wrote: > David, > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:51 AM, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 05:38:20PM +0700, Max Khon wrote: > > > I would like to disable building profiled libraries by default. Opinions? > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 07:46:17PM +0000, Max Khon wrote: > > > Author: fjoe > > > Date: Tue Nov 29 19:46:17 2011 > > > New Revision: 228143 > > > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/228143 > > > > > > Log: > > > Turn off profiled libs build by default. > > > Can be enabled back using WITH_PROFILE=yes in /etc/src.conf > > > > Wow, a single day of discussion in freebsd-current@ was sufficient to > > invert a 17 year default. > > > > You still failed to name a single compelling reason to leave profiled libs > even in -CURRENT. > Having a set of profiled libraries in-sync with the static and shared libraries allows one to run the profiler on their code when someone changes a library and that change causes a dramatic change in the performance of one's code. PS: David was not complaining about "fixing a 17 year old bug". He was stating that a single day of discussion changing a 17 year old practice seems a little too brief. PPS: I was on work-related travel for the last 4 days, and only saw this discussion after you pulled the trigger. -- Steve