Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:00:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com> To: Alexander Kabaev <ak03@gte.com> Cc: <current@FreeBSD.org>, <developers@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: GCC 3.2 in progress Message-ID: <20020901145843.B16984-100000@wonky.feral.com> In-Reply-To: <20020901175759.24d5b9a2.ak03@gte.com>
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On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:50:50 -0700 (PDT) > Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com> wrote: > > > From recent experience it is my estimation that a gcc upgrade sets 5.0 > > development back a month (that is, the last GCC upgrade kept *me* from > > working productively for around a month due to various this thats and > > the others). If that's what people want, that's fine. I could also be > > totally wrong, and this won't break things. I'm just a bit startled > > that this appears out of nowhere (I sure don't recall it being > > discussed) and just happens, with 10 minutes warning. > > Matt, the change was discussed several times on developers@, so this > import is hardly 'out of nowhere'. I sure didn't see anything on the recent 5.0 schedule about this. Like I said- this is not meant to be hypercritical. Let's assume that I'm not paying that close attention, like a *lot* of developers to the flood of mail. There might have been a note about "new compiler import" on the recent 5.X schedule changes that surely would catch the eye. > > > This is, IMO, why FreeBSD is not going to be very successful. You > > cannot just make major toolchain changes w/o at least *some* belief > > that this is going to be done well. Did you do a dryrun with the > > import before checking things in? > > About five buildworlds on i386 and two on Alpha. Does that count as dry > runs? Surely they do. Did somebody in ia64 && sparc && ppc get a headsup? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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