From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 11 22:42:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14417 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:42:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.thebestisp.com (alpha.thebestisp.com [204.220.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14410 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@thebestisp.com) Received: from subzero.thebestisp.com (subzero.thebestisp.com [204.220.33.178]) by alpha.thebestisp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA13844 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:47:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Joe" To: Subject: Fw: FreeBSD firewall questions Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:54:22 -0600 Message-ID: <01bd377a$aaa63900$b221dccc@subzero.thebestisp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org IF YOU DO NOT NEED TO CONNECT MORE THAN TWO COMPUTERS DO NOT USE A HUB! (did the caps get your 'tension?) the reasons are simple 1 a hub costs money and if you were into spending money you wouldn't be using freebsd you'd be dealing (and spending a fortune for the same or less effect) with a Microsoft or comperable product. And second you can't expect to get better that 60%(+-) ie: 6Mbps rather than 10Mbps throughput so you are paying for latency and collissions..Just my two cents.. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Walton To: Benedikt Stockebrand ; questions@FreeBSD.ORG ; isp@FreeBSD.ORG ; fbsdlist@federation.addy.com Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 9:22 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD firewall questions On 11 Feb 98 at 22:41, Benedikt Stockebrand wrote: > Cliff Addy writes: > > > - In order to connect the outside nic of the firewall directly to the > > router, don't we need a "special" cable, the cat-5 equivalent of a > > null-modem cable? > > You can use a proper hub instead. It is also possible to build a > null-hub cable, but I don't remember which wires to cross. Sorry, > maybe some hardware fraggle knows? Standard cable: 1 ----- 1 2 ----- 2 3 ----- 3 6 ----- 6 (1,2) -> (1,2) should be a twisted pair, as should (3,6) -> (3,6). Crossover cable: 1 ----- 3 2 ----- 6 3 ----- 1 6 ----- 2 (1,2) -> (3,6) should be a twisted pair, as should (3,6) -> (1,2). If you are using 4-pair cable (and you probably are), you can hook up 4 ----- 4 5 ----- 5 7 ----- 7 8 ----- 8 for both setups. Dave (Hey, what's a fraggle??) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Walton Webmaster, Postmaster Nordic Entertainment Worldwide walton@nordicdms.com http://www.nordicdms.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message