From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 08:31:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317771065686 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99508FC18 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9B8Vtvs004570; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:31:36 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20081011083136.GA79660@thought.org> References: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> <20081011012703.GE18237@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081011012703.GE18237@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 3GHz [[ alledgedly]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:31:42 -0000 On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:27:03PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Oct-10 16:43:17 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I just bought the last pre-Lenovo [?] IBM ThinkPad. I would have > > much preferred the computer *without* an OS, but hell will freeze > > over before that happens. Nutshell, it's got XP on it and I'd > > like to know if I can scrape it off and either give or sell it. > > It should have either been supplied with recovery disks or have > embedded software that will allow you to build recovery disks. This is an old (2005) l'top; used. The place I bought it is in Canada. I aked the dealer if he could remove it. He said: "Write 'No OS wanted' in the comment section." Which I did, naturally. I wrote this guy a polite letter expressing my dissatisfaction. Zip. No reply. --Of course with the global house-of-cards economy what it is, he wasn't going to say *anything*. > Unfortunately, the latter mechanism will require you to complete the > XP install process before you can create the recovery disks. Also, my > understanding (IANAL and TINLA) is that the XP license you have is not > transferrable so you would not be able to legally give/sell it to > someone else and I also believe the license key is linked to the > hardware configuration and may not work on (eg) a whitebox desktop. I > suggest you read the fine print in the EULA before attempting to sell > it. There was nothing but the computer and the cords. Transformer. Zero booklets, zero docs. I can probably find a DOS program to extract the key for this year XP, but if is illegal to sell, well, that how the world turns... . > > > So: should I just drop in 7.1-R or Ubuntu-XYZ over the Windows > > or what? The ONLY use I'd ever have to use W is to play my > > French CD's. O/wise it's useless. > > Your other approach is to shrink the XP partition (Knoppix includes > suitable tools or you can search the Internet) and put FreeBSD (or > Ubuntu - but this is a FreeBSD list) on the rest of the disk. I used > this approach on a HP laptop and managed to shoe-horn XP into 5GB > (though if you actually want to use it, you'd be better off with a > bit more space). thanks for your input.... > > -- > Peter Jeremy > Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement > an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org