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Date:      Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:06:57 +1000
From:      Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: www/py-html5lib with FLAVOR=py27 failed to build
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On 27/07/2020 4:34 pm, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
).
> 
> The strategy, plan and execution for deprecation of Python 2.7 and the
> guidelines for deprecation and removal of Python 2.7 ports was not
> coordinated with, discussed with or executed by the Python team, as it
> should have been.
> 
> The issues associated with this as well as the impact it has had on the
> team, maintainers and and users has already been reported to core as one
> set of example symptoms that form part of a broader report.
> 
> Python is more than happy to address the issues associated with that
> plan. I encourage and welcome interested developers, users, maintainers
> who want to participate in improve the situation to join #freebsd-python
> on freenode.
> 
> 
> -- 
> koobs
> @Python
> 
> 
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Thank-you Stefan I couldn't agree more.  I use security/w3af for web
scanning and have pursued upstream, but it was zapped from the ports
infrastructure around March.

Koobs sharing the perspective of @python is very much appreciated.  I
recall a time when changes to a "port" was the responsibility of the
maintainer.

Unfortunately python2.7 dependent ports are removed or scheduled to be
removed outside the actual python2.7 EOL window, which is rather
inexplicable.  The EOL tyranny is significantly detrimental to FreeBSD's
reputation as many well used, and in some cases necessary ports do not
have an upgrade to 3.X plan.  And yes, we should apply pressure
upstream, but taking the ports away isn't "user" friendly; sans there
being a significant security issue. :)

I lament new users who decide to build ports only to find that they've
been removed or marked broken due to download relocation.  I would've
thought that a FreeBSD distribution site would retain and contribute to
 FreeBSD being a pleasurable experience.  Sadly I digress.




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