Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:01:19 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se> To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright <andrew@QEMG.org> Cc: Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org>, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: going from cvs to svnq Message-ID: <20090401110119.GA40976@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0904010641100.32642@qemg.org> References: <49D27B25.80003@telenix.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0903311728390.60971@qemg.org> <49D2CEF9.9030304@telenix.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0904010641100.32642@qemg.org>
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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:05:53AM -0300, Andrew Hamilton-Wright wrote: > > [ snippage of question re: svn and cvs ] > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > Andrew Wright wrote: > >> > >> The primary advantage of using svn is that the _server_ uses a > >> different protocol to track objects. > > > > I think that's unclear, you can't mean that just having the protocol be > > different, that's not that much of a win. Having svn track extra things, like > > directories, that I'd think was a win. > > I chose the word protocol poorly. For "protocol" read "way of > doing things", or perhaps "algorithm". > > What I was trying to make clear is that the choice of tool between > cvs and svn is made based on server related criteria. > > > > > What I don't know is, I use cvsup all the time, but when I switch to svn, what > > does the "cvsup" job of tracking an archive (not tracking the sources, I mean > > the archive)? Does svn do it all itself? If so, I can find out how, I just > > want to know if that's how its done. If not, what's the general tool used to > > track the freebsd archive, so I can investigate it? > > If you are asking "what is the name of the subversion client, and how > can I use it?", then the answer is "svn" (which is also the executable > used for the server, a la cvs with the "pserver" option). Usage No, 'svnserve' is normally the executable running on the server. > instructions are available via: > http://subversion.tigris.org > > > If you are asking "what can I type to get a readonly copy of the > repo?", then according to the ROADMAP.txt at: > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/ROADMAP.txt?view=markup > the answer appears to be: > svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head No, that is not going to get you a copy of the subversion repository, but just a checked out copy of HEAD. There is no 'svn' command that will give you a copy of the whole repository. Personally I have found 'rsync' to be quite useful in replicating a subversion repository, but that of course requires the server to support it, which is probably not the case for the FreeBSD repo. I don't know if there currently is any supported method for ordinary users to get a copy of the whole FreeBSD subversion repository. I suspect there isn't. > > Strong Caveats: > o One of the peculiarities of subversion is that if you > leave off the "head" portion of the URL, you will get _all_ of > the nodes in the repository -- that is, the history at every point. > > o As I mentioned earlier, this will produce a newly checked out working > space that is incompatible with cvsup (or cvs in general). > > o ***Early Adopter Warning***: There has not been (as far as I know) a > general call for people to move to this type of repository access except > for committers -- therefore expect rough edges until a general announcement > is made. > > A. > -- <Insert your favourite quote here.> Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se
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