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After a "make -j8 cleanworld cleandir" (trying to circumvent the problem) = I still face the ccp error shown below rendering the system impossible to co= mpile a world or kernel! Below you'll finde /etc/src.conf (we compile with -O3 and CPUTYPE=3Dnative= ), additionally you'll find the initial dmesg part showing the CPU type. The box is relatively new and a real troublemaker under FreeBSD at the mom= ent, as jails stopping/starting seem to trigger reprudicable crashes, but that = is an other story. How to fix this desaster? Thanks in advance and kind regards, oh [...] =2D------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims =2D------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; INSTALL=3D"sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" TOOLS_PREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/a= md64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/bin:= /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp MAKEFLAGS=3D"-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk -m /usr/src/share/mk" make -f Makefile.inc1 DES= TDIR=3D OBJTOP=3D'/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools' OBJROOT=3D'${OBJTO= P}/' MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D BOOTSTRAPPING=3D1300056 BWPHASE=3Dlegacy SSP_CFLAGS= =3D MK_HTML=3Dno NO_LINT=3Dyes MK_MAN=3Dno -DNO_PIC MK_PROFILE=3Dno -DNO_SHAR= ED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS MK_WARNS=3Dno MK_CTF=3Dno MK_CLANG_EXTRAS=3Dno MK_CLANG_F= ULL=3Dno MK_LLDB=3Dno MK_RETPOLINE=3Dno MK_TESTS=3Dno MK_INCLUDES=3Dyes MK_LLVM_TA= RGET_ALL=3Dno legacy [Creating objdir /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools...] =3D= =3D=3D> tools/build (obj,includes,all,install) [Creating objdir /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/tools/build...] sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/sys/sys/nv= .h /usr/src/sys/sys/cnv.h /usr/src/sys/sys/dnv.h /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include/sys/ sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcasper/services/cap_fileargs/cap_fileargs.h /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include/casper/ cc -O2 -pipe = -O3 -DNDEBUG -MD -MF.depend.dummy.o -MTdummy.o -std=3Dgnu99 -Wno-format-zero-= length -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include= -c /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c -o dummy.o building static egacy library ar -= crD libegacy.a `NM=3D'nm' NMFLAGS=3D'' lorder dummy.o | tsort -q` ranlib -D libegacy.a sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libegacy.a /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/lib/ mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/lib/casper /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/lib/geom /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include/casper /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include/private/zstd /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/lib ln -sfn bin /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/sbin ln -sfn ../bin /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/bin ln -sfn ../bin /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin mkdir -p "/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy//usr/include/sys" mkdir -p "/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy//usr/include/casper" =3D=3D=3D> l= ib/libnv (obj,includes,all,install) [Creating objdir /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/libnv...] cc -O2 -pipe -O3 -I/usr/src/lib/libnv -DNDEBUG -MD -MF.depend.cnvlist.o -MTcnvlist.o -std= =3Dgnu99 -Wno-format-zero-length -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/sys/contrib/libnv/cnvlist.c -o cnvlist.o Stack dump: 0. Prog= ram arguments: /usr/bin/cpp -cc1 -triple x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.0 -emit-obj -disable-free -disable-llvm-verifier -discard-value-names -main-file-name cnvlist.c -mrelocation-model static -mthread-model posix -mdisable-fp-elim -masm-verbose -mconstructor-aliases -munwind-tables -fuse-init-array -target-cpu x86-64 -dwarf-column-info -debugger-tuning=3Dgdb -coverage-not= es-file /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/libnv/cnvlist.gcno -resourc= e-dir /usr/lib/clang/9.0.0 -dependency-file .depend.cnvlist.o -sys-header-deps -= MT cnvlist.o -I /usr/src/lib/libnv -D NDEBUG -I /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/include -O3 -Wno-format-zero-l= ength -std=3Dgnu99 -fdebug-compilation-dir /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/obj-tools/lib/libnv -ferror-limit 19 -fmessage-length 313 -fobjc-runtime=3Dgnustep -fdiagnostics-show-option -fcolor-diagnostics -vectorize-loops -vectorize-slp -faddrsig -o cnvlist.o= -x c /usr/src/sys/contrib/libnv/cnvlist.c 1. parser at end of file 2= . Code generation #0 0x00000000036a3fce (/usr/bin/cpp+0x36a3fce) #1 0x00000000036a1e8a (/usr/bin/cpp+0x36a1e8a) #2 0x00000000036a4976 (/usr/bin/cpp+0x36a4976) #3 0x00000008048707d0 (/lib/libthr.so.3+0x147d0) = cpp: error: unable to execute command: Segmentation fault (core dumped) cpp: er= ror: clang frontend command failed due to signal (use -v to see invocation) Fre= eBSD clang version 9.0.0 (tags/RELEASE_900/final 372316) (based on LLVM 9.0.0) Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.0 Thread model: posix InstalledDir: /usr/= bin cpp: note: diagnostic msg: PLEASE submit a bug report to https://bugs.freebsd.org/submit/ and include the crash backtrace, preproce= ssed source, and associated run script. cpp: note: diagnostic msg: ******************** PLEASE ATTACH THE FOLLOWING FILES TO THE BUG REPORT: Preprocessed source(s) and associated run script(s) are located at: cpp: note: diagnostic msg: /tmp/cnvlist-e82baa.c cpp: note: diagnostic msg: /tmp/cnvlist-e82baa.sh cpp: note: diagnostic msg: ******************** *** Error code 254 Stop. make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libnv *** Error code 1 Stop. make[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/src [...] [... /etc/src.conf ...] # CPUTYPE?=3D native # CFLAGS+=3D -O3 COPTFLAGS+=3D -O3 # WITH_CLANG_EXTRAS=3D YES WITH_LLDB=3D YES #WITH_BSD_GREP=3D YES # WITH_OFED=3D YES WITH_NAND=3D YES #WITH_CTF=3D YES # WITH_BEARSSL=3D YES # WITH_SVN=3D YES # WITH_SORT_THREADS=3D YES # MALLOC_PRODUCTION=3D YES # WITHOUT_ASSERT_DEBUG=3D YES WITHOUT_DEBUG_FILES=3D YES WITHOUT_TESTS=3D YES # WITHOUT_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD=3D YES # # mitigation for CVE-2017-5715 in the kernel build #WITH_RETPOLINE=3D YES # KERNCONF=3D GENERIC-NODEBUG #KERNCONF=3D GENERIC KERNCONFDIR=3D /etc/config/amd64/kernel_conf # PORTS_MODULES=3D #PORTS_MODULES+=3Demulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod #PORTS_MODULES+=3Demulators/virtualbox-ose-additions [...] =2D--<>--- Copyright (c) 1992-2019 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #25 r354673: Wed Nov 13 06:47:48 CET 2019 root@sb211:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/SB211 amd64 FreeBSD clang version 9.0.0 (tags/RELEASE_900/final 372316) (based o= n LLVM 9.0.0) VT(efifb): resolution 1280x1024 CPU microcode: updated from 0x5000029 to 0x500002c CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 5217 CPU @ 3.00GHz (2993.05-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin=3D"GenuineIntel" Id=3D0x50657 Family=3D0x6 Model=3D0x55 Stepp= ing=3D7 Features=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x7ffefbff AMD Features=3D0x2c100800 AMD Features2=3D0x121 Structured Extended Features=3D0xd39ffffb Structured Extended Features2=3D0x808 Structured Extended Features3=3D0xbc000400 XSAVE Features=3D0xf IA32_ARCH_CAPS=3D0xab VT-= x: PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID,VID,PostIntr TSC: P-state invariant, perform= ance statistics real memory =3D 68719476736 (65536 MB) avail memory =3D 66361274368 (63287 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 16 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 8 core(s) x 2 hardware threads random: registering fast source Intel Secure Key RNG random: fast provider: "Intel Secure Key RNG" random: unblocking device. Security policy loaded: MAC/ntpd (mac_ntpd) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 ioapic1 irqs 24-31 ioapic2 irqs 32-39 ioapic3 irqs 40-47 ioapic4 irqs 48-55 Launching APs: 1 6 11 9 10 13 2 7 15 8 5 14 3 4 12 Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1496526241 Hz quality 1000 random: entropy device external interface kbd0 at kbdmux0 000.000077 [4336] netmap_init netmap: loaded module nexus0 efirtc0: efirtc0: registered as a time-of-day clock, resolution 1.000000s aesni0: cryptosoft0: acpi0: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) cpu0: numa-domain 0 on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71,0x74-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 atrtc0: registered as a time-of-day clock, resolution 1.000000s Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 950 Event timer "HPET" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 350 Event timer "HPET1" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET2" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET3" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET4" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET5" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET6" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET7" frequency 24000000 Hz quality 340 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0 acpi_syscontainer0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff numa-domain 0 on acpi0 pci0: numa-domain 0 on pcib0 ioat0: mem 0x78ffff2c000-0x78ffff2ffff at device 4.0 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat0: Capabilities: f0006f1 ioat1: mem 0x78ffff28000-0x78ffff2bfff at device 4.1 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat1: Capabilities: f0006f1 ioat2: mem 0x78ffff24000-0x78ffff27fff at device 4.2 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat2: Capabilities: f0004f1 ioat3: mem 0x78ffff20000-0x78ffff23fff at device 4.3 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat3: Capabilities: f0004f1 ioat4: mem 0x78ffff1c000-0x78ffff1ffff at device 4.4 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat4: Capabilities: f0004f1 ioat5: mem 0x78ffff18000-0x78ffff1bfff at device 4.5 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat5: Capabilities: f0004f1 ioat6: mem 0x78ffff14000-0x78ffff17fff at device 4.6 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat6: Capabilities: f0004f1 ioat7: mem 0x78ffff10000-0x78ffff13fff at device 4.7 numa-domai= n 0 on pci0 ioat7: Capabilities: f0004f1 = pci0: at device 8.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 17.1 (no dri= ver attached) ahci0: port 0x3070-0x3077,0x3060-0x3063,0x3020-0x303f mem 0xaac06000-0xaac07fff,0xaac09000-0xaac090ff,0xaab80000-0xaabfffff at devic= e 17.5 numa-domain 0 on pci0 ahci0: AHCI v1.31 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahc= ich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahciem0: on ahci0 xhci0: mem bridge> 0x78ffff00000-0x78ffff0ffff at device 20.0 numa-domain 0 on pci0 x= hci0: bridge> 32 bytes context size, 64-bit DMA usbus0 numa-domain 0 on xhci0 us= bus0: bridge> 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 pci0: at device 22.0 (= no bridge> driver attached) pci0: at device 22.1 (no driver bridge> attached) pci0: at device 22.4 (no driver attached) bridge> ahci1: port bridge> 0x3050-0x3057,0x3040-0x3043,0x3000-0x301f mem bridge> 0xaac04000-0xaac05fff,0xaac08000-0xaac080ff,0xaab00000-0xaab7ffff = at bridge> device 23.0 numa-domain 0 on pci0 ahci1: AHCI v1.31 with 8 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported